Mr Mxyzptlk
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There's an argument there IMO.roseboy64 said:
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McGrath returns to #1 in PwC ratings
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FaaipDeOiad
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The main reason that Jayasuria is ahead of Lee is the lack of test cricket Lee has played recently. His last test began on the second of January 2003, so if he isn't picked for the rest of the Pakistan tour he will drop off the ratings list entirely, as happened to Shane Warne and Anil Kumble at different points for not playing any test cricket for a year.
It has nothing to do with Jayasuria's results in comparison to Lee's, as even after his poor result in his last test he was ranked in the top 20 in the world, and has been in the top 10 before.
It has nothing to do with Jayasuria's results in comparison to Lee's, as even after his poor result in his last test he was ranked in the top 20 in the world, and has been in the top 10 before.
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Quick comparison...
Jayasuriya averages 24.50 for his 15 wickets in his last 10 games. Among specialist batsmen, he's dismissed Ebrahim, Graeme Smith (x2), Martyn, Boucher and Kallis. He's also had Moin Khan, Boje and Razzaq.
Lee has 37 wickets in his last 10 Tests at 37.27. Most of his wickets have been quality batsmen. Most notably he's had Sarwan and Devon Smith thrice, Ganguly and Ganga twice.
Jayasuriya has taken a wicket every 10.65 overs and Lee is 9.93. Jayasuriya is far more economical though (2.29 to 3.75) and has more 5-wicket hauls - 1.
Jayasuriya averages 24.50 for his 15 wickets in his last 10 games. Among specialist batsmen, he's dismissed Ebrahim, Graeme Smith (x2), Martyn, Boucher and Kallis. He's also had Moin Khan, Boje and Razzaq.
Lee has 37 wickets in his last 10 Tests at 37.27. Most of his wickets have been quality batsmen. Most notably he's had Sarwan and Devon Smith thrice, Ganguly and Ganga twice.
Jayasuriya has taken a wicket every 10.65 overs and Lee is 9.93. Jayasuriya is far more economical though (2.29 to 3.75) and has more 5-wicket hauls - 1.
FaaipDeOiad
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Whatever. They are ranked at a comparable level, and it is because of Lee's absence from test cricket and not because his impact with the ball is on the same level as Jayasuria.bryce said:
Jayasuria obviously has a better average in his last 10 tests, as has been pointed out, but if Lee had played those last 10 tests this year he would be comfortably ahead of Jayasuria in the rankings simply because he has taken so many more wickets.
FaaipDeOiad
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Because four months is not long enough to have a rating fall significantly, while 11 months is. Four months was in fact, until the last few years, quite common. A team would have four months off test cricket every year unless they had a winter tour somewhere. Therefore, it has no significant impact on ratings. Any player who has 11 months off test cricket is clearly having a significantly reduced impact on test cricket, as they have missed an entire year. Murali has only missed a handful of tests at this point.bryce said:
tooextracool
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oh really?FaaipDeOiad said:
interesingly, jayasuriya averages 26 odd with the ball since 2000 while lee if you look at 01 and 02 where he played every test, was fully fit and no one complained about any thing such as poor form still averaged 36 and 41 respectively.
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tooextracool
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is it dennis lillee?Top_Cat said:
FaaipDeOiad
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Yes, and as I said, his higher volume of wickets due to bowling much more often would see him higher in the PwC ratings, and sure enough that is the case in both the years you mentioned. The closest they got was in late 2001 when Jayasuria rose to 40th and Lee fell to the low 30s, and they spent most of the period after there 10 ranks apart, as Lee stayed around 20th and Jayasuria around 30th. They began 2001 with Lee in 11th and Jayasuria outside of the top 50, and began 2003 with Lee 23rd and Jayasuria 32nd, since when Lee has not played.tooextracool said:
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I cant believe that every one here has all seemed to agree that Jayasuria is a better bowler than Brett Lee. If i was a international batsman i would much rather face Jayasuria.
Or maybe im missing something, is the world coming to an end, are there pigs flying in the skies etc
Or maybe im missing something, is the world coming to an end, are there pigs flying in the skies etc
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Just to clear something up which not everyone on here has seemed to grasp so far, cricketers only lose points on their rating when they miss Tests for their country - if the country didn't play for 12 months it wouldn't make any difference to the rating. 1% of points is lost for Tests, 0.5% for ODIs.
