subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No it's true he played generally weaker lineups than other ATGs while still being the greatest based on his record and rep.
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McGrath. Marshall. Hadlee.
- Thread starter DrWolverine
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Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
He played the same teams Hadlee played. What are you talking about. He obviously can't play against his own team. And he played zero minnows. Fun fact, fwiw, I believe Pakistan had the highest team batting average from the 80s (i could be wrong). Can Coronis or someone else look up team batting averages from the 80s.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think he is considered to be way ahead of the two; all three are close, Marshall just ahead. I wouldn't mind if anybody places McGrath over him, considering the era he played in.
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
Nobody on here seriously thinks Marshall or any other bowler is well ahead of the others. Some people just love stirring the pot.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lol you haven't met Kyear then.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And?
Johan
International Coach
@Sliferxxxx asked for numbers so
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ah sorry missed that bro
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
Good grief this again?? Why do you care so much about what one person thinks?? Smh
Johan
International Coach
we played a stupid amount of games with the West Indies and it shows.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Because you said 'nobody'. I would agree most of us think McGrath and Hadlee are close to Marshall.
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
Just as I suspected. Not much to choose in batting amongst the 80s teams. Therefore Marshall bowled to the same level of batting competition as his contemporaries plus no games vs minnows. Johan, do you mind posting the same stats for the 70s, 90s and 00s. Much appreciated!!
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Doesn't he rate McGrath in the GoAT tier? iirc he also rates Hadlee in the top tier as well (I'm not sure but he may have a distinction between top tier and GoAT tier)
Johan
International Coach
1970s
West Indies and Pakistan on top
1990s
Australia, South Africa and India on top
2000s
Australia, South Africa and India on top
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
I said nobody "seriously." And Kyear thinks Marshall is the best as i do but he doesn't think Marshall is head and shoulders above everyone else. For schitts and giggles, let's say he did, WHY DO YOU CARE??
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He considers Marshall a near Sobers Bradman lock in a ATG XI and had Marshall - Bradman comparisons he made in the past that I would rather not bring up.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I was addressing your point on its surface. But if you are suggesting Kyear isnt serious then maybe we agree.