Matthew Wade

[NUFAN]

Are the selectors perhaps waiting for Paine to make some runs?

Ain't nobody got time for dat

 

[Tangles]

He almost got hit in the nuts standing up. If there is any movement or variable bounce standing up he misses it. His hands get there late which tells me he doesn't know where the ball is going to be if the batsman misses.

Sort of **** I used to do when I filled in at keeper but I wasn't touring India impersonating a keeper.

 

[Jono]

Seems to me this is all Brad Haddin's fault. Bloke can actually keep, and can actually bat, but he's a ****ing ****** with his stroke play and thus let Wade slip in to contention.

Even with Haddin's personal problems that allowed Wade to play in WI, I think if Haddin didn't have scrutiny over his batting prior to that, he'd have come back and replaced Wade when he was available again, even despite Wade doing well in WI.

Wade sucks balls. It is Brad Haddin's fault that we have been exposed to him sucking balls.

I think I could make every bad thing in life Brad Haddin's fault tbf.

 

[Spikey]

It's somewhat worrying that Victoria have replaced him with another guy who isn't a natural keeper.

wasn't that just a way of fitting handscomb into the team? surely once dussey, rogers etc go away and there's more spots up for grabs handscomb will give up the gloves, at least in the shield

 

[Andre]

Haven't seen any of Wade's efforts this time around - anything specific that he's doing badly?

Just wicket-keeping and batting.

 

[Spikey]

Just wicket-keeping and batting.

no hustle either skip

 

[Valer]

Obviously its not all Wade's fault but

Lyon with Wade 10M 36W @ 38.16 SR 77.1
Lyon with Haddin 10M 41W @ 28.68 SR 55.7

 

[Spark]

Think you could find 5-6 wickets in there reasonably easily.

 

[aussie tragic]

Obviously its not all Wade's fault but

Lyon with Wade 10M 36W @ 38.16 SR 77.1
Lyon with Haddin 10M 41W @ 28.68 SR 55.7

I'd say it's mostly all Wades fault

 

[flibbertyjibber]

So Lyon bowled pies to Dhoni because Wade was playing. That a new one.

 

[Valer]

So Lyon bowled pies to Dhoni because Wade was playing. That a new one.

Are you suggesting that 9 tests of Wade's keeping hasn't done anything to his confidence &/or changed his bowling to reduce the amount of caught wk / stumped?

NB: if he found those extra 6 wickets --probably a pretty decent estimate sans the 2nd order effects I mentioned above, he'd average ~32 for his last 10 tests.

 

[Daemon]

Are you suggesting that 9 tests of Wade's keeping hasn't done anything to his confidence &/or changed his bowling to reduce the amount of caught wk / stumped?

haha, that is almost certainly not the case.

 

[Tangles]

Bugs me that I don't remember how many chances Wade dropped/missed for Lyon. Should have started a thread to document them. Wade wag.

 

[Valer]

haha, that is almost certainly not the case.

Eh? You don't think he'd toss it up more when someone goes down the pitch to him if he knew Wade could make the stumping? I'm not sure this is an entirely concious decision but I' suggest that some of his flight change could be attributed this way.

I'll put it another way, if wade could not catch *anything* or make *any* stumpings would you change the way you bowl given you were the Australia spinner?

 

[Daemon]

Eh? You don't think he'd toss it up more when someone goes down the pitch to him if he knew Wade could make the stumping? I'm not sure this is an entirely concious decision but I' suggest that some of his flight change could be attributed this way.

It has to be a conscious decision if he's deliberately changing the way he bowls in fear of a missed stumping.

It would be overthinking it and just highly, highly unlikely imo.

 

[Burgey]

Magilla was on the radio last night in Sydney and made some interesting comments about bowling in India. He didn't mention Wade's keeping specifically, but he mentioned how easy it is to lose confidence in those conditions, and how important it is for a spinner there to have bowlers at the other end taking poles. Was a good interview. I'll see if I can find a link to it.

 

[Spark]

At a bare minimum it would've given him more confidence, which give how he's bowling at the moment can only be a very good thing.

It has to be a conscious decision if he's deliberately changing the way he bowls in fear of a missed stumping.

Why does it have to be conscious? It'd be in the back of his mind and that would be enough to have an impact.

 

[Daemon]

Why does it have to be conscious? It'd be in the back of his mind and that would be enough to have an impact.

It's in the back of his mind that Wade is having trouble taking stumping chances and so he subconsciously decides to stop tossing the ball up and starts to bowl pies? I have trouble believing that, and more importantly from whenever I've seen Lyon bowl that's not the case either. Just seems unlikely to me.

I agree that Wade has cost Lyon a handful of wickets and it may have dented his confidence, but not to the extent that he'd change his bowling style just to remove Wade from the equation. He just does that when he's tired or bowling against settled batsmen imo.

Agree to disagree etc.

 

[watson]

There are two types of people in the workforce, even the cricket workforce.

The first type are those who are technically good at their job and look great, BUT are demanding, a pain the arse to work with, and therefore disrupt the work-flow of the department.

The second type are those who are less knowledgable and a bit slow. However, they are pleasant, good to be around, and try hard. They take longer to learn tasks and roles, but ultimately they benefit the department better in the long-run because they get on with everyone and are well motivated.

I think that Matthew Wade fulls into that second caregory because he seems like a genuine bloke who has the potential to come good. Give him a fair go.

 

[Daemon]

Then there are those who are simply not good enough and deserve to be fired