Rik said:Well I've been talking to Andre and he can't understand why he's been called up, as there are many other players who have done much better for much longer than he has. Andre also can't understand why you talk about his bowling all the time Age, he says he's seen it and you can find better pies in the local butchers...
Look it's all about being in form at the right time and none of those players are or have been in good form this year.Rik said:Bevan: Averages over 50 every season for NSW and has a career average of 56, and yet he is branded a OD specialist.
Law: FC Average of 49, enough said
Maher: Part of the ODI side, a logical choice to give him a go in the Test side.
Elliot: Averages 48 and has shown that he's not just an opener by scoring a brilliant century for Yorkshire in the middle order.
Katich: Given one Test chance and averages 48, really should be given more as he looks a really fine talent.
Hussey: 2 unbeaten 320s in County Cricket, ok the attacks were probably weak but that's still an amazing feat. Averages about 50.
Now only Maher has a career average lower than Clarke's FC Average this year...47. Suddenly it looks much more like excitement over a young player...
Rik said:Bevan: Averages over 50 every season for NSW and has a career average of 56, and yet he is branded a OD specialist.
Law: FC Average of 49, enough said
Maher: Part of the ODI side, a logical choice to give him a go in the Test side.
Elliot: Averages 48 and has shown that he's not just an opener by scoring a brilliant century for Yorkshire in the middle order.
Katich: Given one Test chance and averages 48, really should be given more as he looks a really fine talent.
Hussey: 2 unbeaten 320s in County Cricket, ok the attacks were probably weak but that's still an amazing feat. Averages about 50.
Now only Maher has a career average lower than Clarke's FC Average this year...47. Suddenly it looks much more like excitement over a young player...
Well for one Andre doesn't resort to obscenities when questioned, and to me has always seemed to be even-handed and level-headed when discussing cricket.Eclipse said:And do you really think I give a **** what Andre thinks?
His opinion is as valid as the rest of us and it seem's the majority of Australians think Clarks call up is warented.
No, he had one season he averaged 80, overall it's just over 60.age_master said:2nd point - nobody cares about county cricket - Players averages mean nothing - Lehmann averages 80+ in county cricket and about 55 in australia
So did Tufnell. :Page_master said:
Mcgrath averages 12 - with the ball in england, 22 or something in aussie domestic cricket, - hell in england he got a 50:o:o:o
What about Blewett? He out-batted Clarke last year, and is also a useful 4th seamer option?Rik said:Bevan: Averages over 50 every season for NSW and has a career average of 56, and yet he is branded a OD specialist.
Law: FC Average of 49, enough said
Maher: Part of the ODI side, a logical choice to give him a go in the Test side.
Elliot: Averages 48 and has shown that he's not just an opener by scoring a brilliant century for Yorkshire in the middle order.
Katich: Given one Test chance and averages 48, really should be given more as he looks a really fine talent.
Hussey: 2 unbeaten 320s in County Cricket, ok the attacks were probably weak but that's still an amazing feat. Averages about 50.
Now only Maher has a career average lower than Clarke's FC Average this year...47. Suddenly it looks much more like excitement over a young player...
lol that just proves the point.marc71178 said:
So did Tufnell. :P
Just like England dont bring back Hick we are not going to bring back Blewett.marc71178 said:What about Blewett? He out-batted Clarke last year, and is also a useful 4th seamer option?
It's not really all that bad ether.marc71178 said:Clarke's last 4 innnings:
0, 120, 0, 11
Now that's not what I would call a good end to the season!
So great that I've never heard of half of them?Eclipse said:It's not really all that bad ether.
besides you should have seen the 120 it came off about 100 balls and it was against some of the best bowlers in Australia.
Sorry I did not realise Quensland had so many of there bowlers out.marc71178 said:So great that I've never heard of half of them?
Who on earth are Hopes, Anderson and Simpson?
I mean they're obviously so much better than any English player because they're Australian, but who are they?
Oh I see, Anderson career average 37.62, Simpson never taken a FC wicket and only played one game, Hopes average 53.45.
Now if they're some of the best bowlers in Australia, then there's serious problems...
But sine half of those didn't play it suddenly weakens their attack immenselyEclipse said:Sorry I did not realise Quensland had so many of there bowlers out.
Sill Kaspa, Nofkie, Dale are Dawes three very good fast bowlers.
I just gave you 6-7 names, why not use them?Eclipse said:Exactly age apart from Beven you seriously canot make a case for any of those players on current form.
Rik I understand were you are comming from I do but tell me who you think should be going instead of Clark and then give us some reasons and I dont mean just looking at a players carear avrages.
I certianly would, not only is he vice webmaster on this site, but he has allways given fair views that don't allways go on the basis that a player is Australian therefor he is better than anyone else in every way.Eclipse said:And do you really think I give a **** what Andre thinks?
His opinion is as valid as the rest of us and it seem's the majority of Australians think Clarks call up is warented.
It does make his opinion more valid because he gives a varied view, never clouded by the green and gold...Eclipse said:That does not make his opinion more valid than the next Australian.
And I dont really care wether you discuse cricket with a level head or not because that will not ultimatly effect somones personal opinion.
Yes, Marc's point which is the fact that if McGrath can score a 50, and Tufnell can, and Mullally can score 2 then it's because everyone has their day, it's the law of averages...Eclipse said:lol that just proves the point.