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age_master

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well im happy, dont piticularly like him anyway,, not sure wether they should send clarke or katich over to replace him though
 

Kiwi

State Vice-Captain
I'm sure Clark will stand up and play awesome if he gets the chance. Thats what would normally happen in the Australian national team.
 

lord_of_darkness

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lol u hate martyn argo ? i reckon hes a good player for aus really ! pretty good batting always saves the day most times
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah well Age is famed for his odd views. Martyn has been quite good in the last year, just maybe found out in the leg slip area. Still he'll be a loss. I still feel that Clarke is being rushed.
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
Clarke has played about 3 seasons of first class cricket, so he's not being rushed at all.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Tim said:
Clarke has played about 3 seasons of first class cricket, so he's not being rushed at all.
He is, he's only had one good season remember...
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
lord_of_darkness said:
yea i do not know much of clarke ,

what about maher i think he is quite a good batsmen is he in the tour ?
Nope they seem to think he's a OD utility player and that's it. But he's got a proven record in 4D cricket, as has one of the most unlucky players at the moment, Mike Hussey. Both would have been more understandable picks but the selectors got carried away in the excitement that a young player finally had a good season...
 

age_master

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Clarke is a good batsman, averaged 55 in OD and 47.5 or something in 4d this season, NSW leading run scorer in OD - ahead of players like Mark Waugh


his batting style is very similar to Ponting, very good driving and Pulling.

good fielder as well, utility fielder - seen him field Covers, slips (3rd), and outfield alot


On Martyn, well basically hes a pretty good player, except his scoring can be cut off easily - NZ have done this very well, and he struggles to score at much more than a run a ball, ie, hes not much good at slogging, which is a useful skill to have in OD games, anyways we dont need another defensive player in the side, we got bevan and everyone else in the side, well maybe except brett lee, can play defensivley if necessary


but hey, dont listen to me about clarke,

A slightly built youngster who was a revelation for both New South Wales and Australia at underage level, Michael Clarke appears destined for great things. An excellent right handed batsman who hails from the western suburbs of Sydney, Clarke is a player who demonstrates maturity beyond his years in both his attitude and strokemaking capabilities. He has been one of the country's leading junior players for a number of years now, having not only been a prolific scorer for national underage teams but also the vice-captain of the Australian under-19 team which visited England in 1998 and the captain of the squad which travelled to Sri Lanka to participate in the Youth World Cup of early 2000. Around his Youth World Cup commitments, his full interstate debut came in 1999-2000 and it was a measure even by then of his readiness for elite-level cricket that he struck as many as four half-centuries in what proved an abbreviated season with the Blues. Clarke shows a particular liking for playing forceful shots through the covers and mid off, though he has largely curbed his attacking instincts in his senior interstate career to date, showing a preference for accumulating his runs more gradually than at lower levels of the game. He looks likely to become one of Australian cricket's principal assets in the years ahead. (John Polack, September 2001)
© 2001 CricInfo Ltd


and this i did nto know about...
Call-up for Clarke
Nigel Stockley - 4 April 2003


Former Ramsbottom professional Michael Clarke has been called up to the Australian squad on tour in the West Indies as a replacement for the injured Damien Martyn.

Clarke, who hit the highest ever individual score in the Lancashire League last season when he scored an unbeaten 200 at Enfield, is currently involved in the Australia A series against the touring South Africa A. In today's 50 over match in Brisbane, Clarke hit 24 and also picked up 2-14 in his sides run rate victory.

Clarke made his full one-day international debut for Australia in the VB Series match against England at the Adelaide Oval in January, hitting an unbeaten 39. In the Pura Cup he hit 763 runs at an average of 47.7 for New South Wales and was a member of the Blues' ING Cup and Pura Cup winning teams.
 

Anil

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Are you talking only about one dayers? Because Bevan is not a part of the test side, is he?

Martyn is a much better performer at test level than Bevan. In one dayers, he didn't do too badly in the WC, did he? I am pretty sure that he is a key member of both teams and will be sorely missed.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
yeah well i was mainly refreing to OD games, but remember we have the ice man in test matches, for a while at least in Steve waugh, and Martin love had good defense too
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Rik said:
He is, he's only had one good season remember...
He had a good year last year as well.

I remember him making 2 hundreds in the Pura Cup last year and one in the ING cup and over all he was very good last year.

I would normaly agree with you about a player needing to establish himsefl a little more but IMO there is no doubt at all he will be an exellent test and ODI player for Australia and when you actualy get a chance to see him bat you will understand what all the fuss is about.
 

Simon

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Clarke has done enough to be given his spot, hes been the next best batsman all season and is not there only on his age, he is in the top 7-8 batsmen now, no doubt.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
age_master said:
Clarke is a good batsman, averaged 55 in OD and 47.5 or something in 4d this season, NSW leading run scorer in OD - ahead of players like Mark Waugh
It's all well and good quoting his one day stats and how he outscored others in one day cricket, but he's been called up to the Test leg of the tour!
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Eclipse said:
He had a good year last year as well.

I remember him making 2 hundreds in the Pura Cup last year and one in the ING cup and over all he was very good last year.

I would normaly agree with you about a player needing to establish himsefl a little more but IMO there is no doubt at all he will be an exellent test and ODI player for Australia and when you actualy get a chance to see him bat you will understand what all the fuss is about.
Well I've been talking to Andre and he can't understand why he's been called up, as there are many other players who have done much better for much longer than he has. Andre also can't understand why you talk about his bowling all the time Age, he says he's seen it and you can find better pies in the local butchers...
 
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Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
broncoman said:
Clarke has done enough to be given his spot, hes been the next best batsman all season and is not there only on his age, he is in the top 7-8 batsmen now, no doubt.
For the record I would rate Hussey, Bevan, Law, Maher, Elliot and Katich as much more deserving players. I feel that the selectors have just been carried away in the excitement just like Rooney with England in the football, and after what I heard was a good performance everyone realises he's only 17 and can't play every game.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Rik said:
For the record I would rate Hussey, Bevan, Law, Maher, Elliot and Katich as much more deserving players. I feel that the selectors have just been carried away in the excitement just like Rooney with England in the football, and after what I heard was a good performance everyone realises he's only 17 and can't play every game.

Bevan has hasd his shot at test level, and hes reasonably old now too, they are trying to let abit of young blood into the side as well

Law- HE CANT EVEN GET A CONSTANT PLACE IN TEH QLD SIDE

Maher - more a OD player - averages about 42 in 4d i tthink, hes good, but not as good as clarke

Elliot - has had his shot too - and hes an opening batsman, we got enough of them with hayden, langer and love - unfortunate end to his career, but well, it happens

Katich and Hussey - would have been my 2nd and 3rd picks respectivley, they are both 6 or 7 years older, hussey has not had his best year, though they are both in england (closer to the WI) katich has been bowling well this year but his batting wasn't as good as it has been.

clarke however has been in good form with the bat - in his 2nd last game he and steve waugh smashed the QLD attack all over the park - steve waugh's SR was about 75 and clarkes was over 100 clarke also made a few runs towards the end of te ING cup - he didn't bat in the final
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
age_master said:
Bevan has hasd his shot at test level, and hes reasonably old now too, they are trying to let abit of young blood into the side as well

Law- HE CANT EVEN GET A CONSTANT PLACE IN TEH QLD SIDE

Maher - more a OD player - averages about 42 in 4d i tthink, hes good, but not as good as clarke

Elliot - has had his shot too - and hes an opening batsman, we got enough of them with hayden, langer and love - unfortunate end to his career, but well, it happens

Katich and Hussey - would have been my 2nd and 3rd picks respectivley, they are both 6 or 7 years older, hussey has not had his best year, though they are both in england (closer to the WI) katich has been bowling well this year but his batting wasn't as good as it has been.

clarke however has been in good form with the bat - in his 2nd last game he and steve waugh smashed the QLD attack all over the park - steve waugh's SR was about 75 and clarkes was over 100 clarke also made a few runs towards the end of te ING cup - he didn't bat in the final
Bevan: Averages over 50 every season for NSW and has a career average of 56, and yet he is branded a OD specialist.

Law: FC Average of 49, enough said

Maher: Part of the ODI side, a logical choice to give him a go in the Test side.

Elliot: Averages 48 and has shown that he's not just an opener by scoring a brilliant century for Yorkshire in the middle order.

Katich: Given one Test chance and averages 48, really should be given more as he looks a really fine talent.

Hussey: 2 unbeaten 320s in County Cricket, ok the attacks were probably weak but that's still an amazing feat. Averages about 50.

Now only Maher has a career average lower than Clarke's FC Average this year...47. Suddenly it looks much more like excitement over a young player...
 
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