Mark Waugh vs Cheteshwar Pujara

[PlayerComparisons]

Two ATVGs

 

[ataraxia]

Surprised at this poll – I guess Pujara is somewhat comfortably above M Waugh, but I've never thought of it like that and expected a landslide the other way. Need some bigoted Australians to wake up.

 

[Majestic]

Mark Waugh > Pujara in most facets of the game. Don't just look at tough runs because the way Pujara bats, all his runs will look like tough ones and the way Waugh Jnr bats, all his runs will look like soft ones. Waugh also a good 6th bowler.

 

[h_hurricane]

Mark Waugh isn't an ATVG. He fluctuated between good and very good.

Pujara isn't unarguably one either, though I guess he is better in this comparison.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Neither are ATVGs

 

[Prince EWS]

Gatekeeping the ATVG title is hilarious but I kind of agree anyway.

Pujara clearly better than Waugh though.

 

[Victor Ian]

Surely this is where you say, when everything else is thereabouts, aesthetics matters. Waugh overshadowed by a stacked batting line up making people underate his value to that team.

 

[BazBall21]

Pujara is underrated.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Surprised at this poll – I guess Pujara is somewhat comfortably above M Waugh, but I've never thought of it like that and expected a landslide the other way. Need some bigoted Australians to wake up.

It’s closer now

 

[ataraxia]

It’s closer now

8–0 to 10–8. Sunrise over the Tasman really does have a profound effect.

 

[BazBall21]

Amazing comeback if Waugh wins.

 

[subshakerz]

Mark Waugh was a high impact bat.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Mark Waugh was a high impact bat.

Pujara had a bottom hand heavy grip and a technique that saw his hands pretty low even when playing short deliveries. It literally meant that the ball would impact his bat pretty high up. Heh.

 

[Himannv]

the way Waugh Jnr bats, all his runs will look like soft ones.

I don't think so. I've seen him play some gritty knocks where he struggled for most part but worked hard and ground out a score. It's in ODIs that he makes everything look easy IMO.

 

[BazBall21]

Pujara would have averaged 50 in the 2000s. His decline coinciding with a very tough era exacerbated his weaknesses.

 

[Prince EWS]

Pujara would have averaged 50 in the 2000s. His decline coinciding with a very tough era exacerbated his weaknesses.

@trundler

 

[BazBall21]

I think so. He was born to bat in the 2000s. His attritional methods against pace don't work as well against deep attacks which was much less of a problem back then. India also played on flat pitches a lot which he will grind to death on. Much easier home conditions where he was a beast even on turners before his decline. In an era that lacks lateral movement and deep pace attacks, it would be hard work getting Pujara out.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think so. He was born to bat in the 2000s. His attritional methods against pace don't work as well against deep attacks which was much less of a problem back then. India also played on flat pitches a lot which he will grind to death on. Much easier home conditions where he was a beast even on turners before his decline. In an era that lacks lateral movement and deep pace attacks, it would be hard work getting Pujara out.

Wasn't having a go at you, I basically agree. I just like to tag trundler whenever someone uses the word weakness ever since he somehow successfully trolled NZers with the most obviously rancid bait ever.

 

[Victor Ian]

Pujara would have averaged 50 in the 2000s. His decline coinciding with a very tough era exacerbated his weaknesses.

How about Waugh? He retired just as the batting party started.

 

[BazBall21]

How about Waugh? He retired just as the batting party started.

I think he had the skill to average 50. Less convinced he had the discipline. Mid-40s easily though.