Malcolm Marshall vs Gary Sobers

[DrWolverine]

Sachin came close to averaging 60 over 19 years
From 1993 to 2011 World Cup
157 Tests. 13607 runs.
Avg of 59.4.
47 centuries.

 

[DrWolverine]

there's another batsman that for a 13 years period averaged over 60

Kallis?

 

[akilana]

Sachin came close to averaging 60 over 19 years
From 1993 to 2011 World Cup
157 Tests. 13607 runs.
Avg of 59.4.
47 centuries.

it would be impressive if he wasn't batting on flat decks half of his career

 

[DrWolverine]

Didn’t Sobers playing in 1960s where the pitches were super easy to bat? Isn’t that the argument used for many for Barrington’s great record?

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Sobers longevity counts

 

[subshakerz]

it would be impressive if he wasn't batting on flat decks half of his career

He was better when they weren't flat.

 

[centurymaker]

Yes I know. Too bad he batted like a dead weight.

He averaged just 33 in home conditions vs Australia -- the only team with a pace attack comparable to his home pace attack.

 

[h_hurricane]

kyear2 will be pondering whom to vote here.

 

[DrWolverine]

Another legend who averaged 60+ over 14 years
Jacques Kallis(1999-2002)
136 Tests.
232 innings.
11961 runs.
Avg of 61.3
42 centuries

Other batsmen during that time period(5000+ runs)

 

[kyear2]

Hobbs vs Marshall would be better.

Done

Malcolm Marshall vs Jack Hobbs

Who is the best player?

www.cricketweb.net

 

[kyear2]

it took multiple illnesses, a surgery and him to be near 40 for him to drop to the level of Hammond and Sutcliffe, which is absolutely insane. IIRC Bradman (who saw an old Hobbs, all the way to Sachin) considered Hobbs the technically finest player.

Still rated Barry the greatest opener he saw.

Just saying.

 

[sayon basak]

Gooch, who faced both Warne and Qadir, said that Qadir was even finer than Shane Warne.

Just saying.

 

[Johan]

oh...so that's why people hate Gooch

 

[sayon basak]

oh...so that's why people hate Gooch

tbh, now as I think about it, he deserves it.

 

[Johan]

tbh, now as I think about it, he deserves it.

you never know...maybe Sobers called Gooch and offered him money to say that.

 

[sayon basak]

you never know...maybe Sobers called Gooch and offered him money to say that.

Yeah makes sense. But it seems like Sobers gave some money to Benaud as well.

 

[Johan]

Yeah makes sense. But it seems like Sobers gave some money to Benaud as well.

Sobers made a network of Warne disrespect imo

 

[kyear2]

Yeah. Because reaching that level to me is more difficult with so much batting competition. So Tendulkar, Hobbs, Sobers and Viv are ahead of Marshall, McGrath and Hadlee who are ahead of Lara, Hutton and Smith.

I used to be bowler first because of team value but I realise that is inherently biased.

I agree with the names and the groupings (not the order per say, but that's nitpicking)

The bowlers though for me has to be higher for team value, plus think Marshall was a better bowler than any batsman not nicknamed the Don.

And yeah, Lara, Smith & Hutton are basically aligned with Steyn, Ambrose and the two spinners.

But of the elite 8. (Sobers boosted because of catching and bowling)

Bradman | Sobers | Marshall | Hobbs | McGrath| Hadlee | Tendulkar | Richards

Purely as a batsman though Sobers is muddled with Sachin and Viv.

 

[kyear2]

kyear2 will be pondering whom to vote here.

No, easily Marshall.

Thanks for the concern though.

 

[Coronis]

He was better when they weren't flat.

I thought he struggled in NZ actually