let’s remember some guys

[reyrey]

Jaques is a great "what if" story. The back injury he had and the surgery to fix it basically ruined his career. I remember him taking apart a young Dale Steyn in one of the winter ODIs played at Docklands in the mid-late 2000s and he looked every inch a bloke who would be a prodigious international player for years.

I wish he was around in his pomp now. He'd be a stand out opener in the context of what's around in Australia atm.

Could have played for England in early 00s. Credit to him for saying no, but probably should have said yes as he'd have managed maybe 50 or so tests before the back became an issue

 

[Burgey]

The man has self-respect.

 

[quincywagstaff]

Jaques is a great "what if" story. The back injury he had and the surgery to fix it basically ruined his career. I remember him taking apart a young Dale Steyn in one of the winter ODIs played at Docklands in the mid-late 2000s and he looked every inch a bloke who would be a prodigious international player for years.

I wish he was around in his pomp now. He'd be a stand out opener in the context of what's around in Australia atm.

Even before his injuries he seemed to not be rated by the selectors. Katich was preferred over him for the opening spot when Hayden returned from injury in the 08/09 summer which was pretty harsh.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah particularly heading into the 09 Ashes. He had a very good County record iirc, though I can't recall if he then got injured again and would have missed the tour anyway. Certainly a missed opportunity given how fragile a lot of our batting was in the late 2000s and into the 2010s.

 

[SiddharthEren]

Ravindra Jadeja happened.
That home series loss to Eng did 2 good things to Indian cricket
1. Gave Ravindra Jadeja
2. Got rid of Yuvraj from test team permanently.

Second one

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

JP Duminy, elegant left hander who did not do his considerable talent justice. Caught the T20 bug unfortunately..

Here he is driving Australia into the dirt at Perth back in 2016 ..

 

[JBMAC]

Ian Craig, excellent first class figures and Captained Australia on a tour to South Africa His test figures will show why he did not survive

 

[Burgey]

Wasn't he the youngest ever Aus test skipper? I think he was labeled the next Bradman at some point, a common curse. I wonder how he would have turned out if he'd not been pushed into skippering so young.

 

[Sunil1z]

Cameron Cuffy
Tall WI fast bowler who once had lowest ER in ODI ( after 25 or 30 ODI iirc )

 

[Coronis]

Previous generation had Graeme Wood; tearing up Shield year after year, reaching 59 Tests in an era when that was a significant number, and averaging less than 32. That's what TOTAB had to deal with.

Australia’s Ramprakash?

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Cameron Cuffy
Tall WI fast bowler who once had lowest ER in ODI ( after 25 or 30 ODI iirc )

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this over about 6-7 years

From memory Cuffy was sharpish when young, but only got a brief look in until after Ambrose and Walsh had retired, by which time he was older and a fair bit slower

 

[TheJediBrah]

I feel like he would have been a handy player in a lot of sides playing as an allrounder in the sc where you might drop a quick and want to strengthen your batting while playing two spinners

I don't recall Nash ever bowling spin. I saw him bowl some ordinary left arm mediums a few times though. No one ever accused him of being an all-rounder in his days playing for Queensland either

 

[TheJediBrah]

The thing about Phil Jaques is he became really good very, very suddenly around 2004-ish. Before that he was not even first-class standard. Even without Hayden/Langer keeping him out he only had a very short window of being an elite international cricketer IIRC

 

[Magrat Garlick]

I asked chatgpt to name a guy based on the idea in the OP and it suggested Ryan Sidebottom. It also thought he was a left arm spinner.

TBF scrapes from here are probably a considerable part of the training set

 

[Bahseph]

JP Duminy, elegant left hander who did not do his considerable talent justice. Caught the T20 bug unfortunately..

Here he is driving Australia into the dirt at Perth back in 2016 ..

It feels wrong to add JP here. He is pretty memorable

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah Duminy is probably one of the most talked about RSA players on these boards in match and selection threads, the conversation often being what to do with him as much as anything else. He was an all-formats player for years who had a bunch of different roles too.

 

[Burgey]

I don't recall Nash ever bowling spin. I saw him bowl some ordinary left arm mediums a few times though. No one ever accused him of being an all-rounder in his days playing for Queensland either

Sorry, I meant you could play him as a seamer on those rubbish SC decks to take the shine off the ball so you could pick an extra spinner.

 

[trundler]

Abid Ali turned out to be a guy.

England seem to produce a great many pacers who fit the mould. Every summer they roll out a fast medium bowler who does a 6/10 job at home after someone is rested/injured.

 

[howitzer]

Australia’s Ramprakash?

Probably not quite that bad. Australia's Hick maybe.

 

[JBMAC]

Wasn't he the youngest ever Aus test skipper? I think he was labeled the next Bradman at some point, a common curse. I wonder how he would have turned out if he'd not been pushed into skippering so young.

Yes the youngest ever skipper and my po, started to believe in his own publicity causing to lose sight of his role as skip/batsman