Johan
International Captain
No way, Cummos has been fading since the India BGT and Root isn't, and Cummos is still 8 dismissals away, not seeing it.
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Learie Constantine vs Harbhajan Singh — who dominated their ATG rival more?
- Thread starter Johan
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PlayerComparisons
International Captain
You better hope so. It would be pretty embarrassing. 8 dismissals in 11 games is unlikely but he should get close since he’s got 11 in 19 so far.
Johan
International Captain
you better hope he has a bad ashes down under next year Boi.
sayon basak
International Captain
That should do. I don't get why Hammond struggled against Constantine tbh, given that he averaged 47 in the matches involving Larwood iirc.
sayon basak
International Captain
Which next year?
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
Tbh I don’t mind him having a good series (very unlikely if Cummins and Hazlewood are playing). It would be pretty hilarious if he went 20 games without scoring a hundred there though.
Johan
International Captain
Constantine was a very good bowler, 85-86 mph per Cambridge but also could mix things up and was versatile, his test stats undervalue his capability imo, he led Windies to multiple wins over England in his short international career and averaged 20 in First Class cricket, there's also a sense of animosity between Hammond and Constantine so that probably had a psychological effect too.
Johan
International Captain
if the type of pitches they served for India are around he should've a good time, let's see.
Johan
International Captain
Constantine really said "**** that guy in Particular."
Learie Constantine was one such player, and wrote about this himself; he claimed that the pair had an ongoing feud on the field which arose from Hammond’s attitude towards him when the pair met during the 1926 MCC tour. Constantine believed that Hammond snubbed him owing to racism, having been friendly enough when they met during the West Indies’ 1923 tour. The result was a series of onfield encounters punctuated by hostility and short-pitched bowling. By Constantine’s own account, this ended when the pair shook hands during the second Test of the 1933 series in England; therefore the “feud” cannot have lasted long as they only faced each other in 1926 and during the 1928 tour of England.
Learie Constantine was one such player, and wrote about this himself; he claimed that the pair had an ongoing feud on the field which arose from Hammond’s attitude towards him when the pair met during the 1926 MCC tour. Constantine believed that Hammond snubbed him owing to racism, having been friendly enough when they met during the West Indies’ 1923 tour. The result was a series of onfield encounters punctuated by hostility and short-pitched bowling. By Constantine’s own account, this ended when the pair shook hands during the second Test of the 1933 series in England; therefore the “feud” cannot have lasted long as they only faced each other in 1926 and during the 1928 tour of England.
Coronis
International Coach
So Hammond was racist for a period of time in the late 20’s. Good thing he started out non racist and finished non racist.
Johan
International Captain
From what I've read, Hammond was a bit of a **** so maybe Constantine took Hammond's rudeness as a resultant of racism instead of natural narcissism
Coronis
International Coach
Yeah lol I wasn’t being serious. Obviously a **** ton of negative interactions back then were based on race sadly but I’ve never heard any mention of Hammond being remotely like that.
Johan
International Captain
yeah also think they had a sort of misunderstanding.
Coronis
International Coach
I googled Wally Hammond racist out of curiosity.
My top result was this.
Thanks @Burgey and @Prince EWS
Johan
International Captain
absolutely hilariousI googled Wally Hammond racist out of curiosity.
My top result was this.
Thanks @Burgey and @Prince EWS
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Lol I just tried and yep......I googled Wally Hammond racist out of curiosity.
My top result was this.
Thanks @Burgey and @Prince EWS
sayon basak
International Captain
Second result.
Harold Gimblett and Learie Constantine: Not quite racism — CricketMash
During a match that started August 25, 1945 at Lord s, an exasperated Harold Gimblett uttered a racist comment at Learie Constantine. As Abhishek Mukherjee elaborates, it ended in good-natured camaraderie, complete with a nice epilogue.
cricmash.com
Johan
International Captain
his technique is too rigid, he kneels a little too much and gets beaten by the bounce constantly