Sanz said:
SJS, I was responding to the post over all,where you first mentioned that he has missed 30% of the test matches since his debut and then asked if he should have played more matches. And then you followed that statment up with some ridiculous stats which didnt really prove anything. I assumed that somehow you wanted to convey that Laxman didn't get enough chances and probably deserved more. If you didn't then I apologize for assuming too much.
Never said that Kaif is better than Laxman or Laxman should be dropped. I personally think very highly of Kaif. On pure talent he sure cant match Laxman but IMHO he makes up for it by his hard work and mentally much tougher than Laxman. And trust me Kaif will open if asked to.He is not a whiner, I have never heard him complain.
Now you can sit here all day and whine about Laxman not getting fair treatment from selectors/fans or not treated like stars, or his avg. is poor because he was made to open and blah blah blah, but at the end of the day Laxman has to perform to keep his place in the team. Couple of more poor series and I bet he will be out of the team.
And I have never said he should not be dropped.
I am only talking about two things
1. the claim that he is HIGHLY over rated
AND
2. That Kaif and Yuvraj are better batsmen than him (Mind you we are talking of better batsmen not form)
If you read my posts you will find one somewhere where i have said, i would not be surprised if he is dropped. In another I have said if we want to play five bowlers Laxman has to go.
Just because some part of the argument appears to you tpo be against ypour opinion doesnt mean you can read into other people's posts anything you want.
I have never even said he is a great player. In fact I have imphatically said that he is NOT one. I miantain he is a fantastic stroke player and no one can deny that. Every one agrees that he has not fufiled his potential. I am sure in his heart he knows that too.
It is also true that he has played some glorious innoings and that he is capable of playing really long innings as his record in both one day and FC shows.
He is also irritatingly inconssitent.
He also gets out to what I have repeatedly termed net-practice-mpode.
He is also going through a horrendous patch.
He has also averaged nearly 50 (49.something) since he refused to open.
All this and more has beeen said by me many a times. read back to confirm if you want
As you can see this has both his plus and minus points listed.
You cant just talk of his minus points and call him highly over rated (by you I dont mean specifically yourself) nor can you read in my posts only the positive things i say about him and use childish phrases like "whining about Laxman not getting a fair treatment".
First i dont whine and I am also not enamoured with either having the last word or insisting I am right.
If you read my posts you may find that I rarely take the extreme positions as moany here tend to do. Such as, so and so is rubbish or so and so is great.
I am aware that in most cases the truth is invariably somewhere in between.
When I interject, sometimes sarcastically, it is only when i find someone taking an extreme view as was done by whoso ever started this thread.
Finally, I do not expect everyone to agree with my point of view nor should you expect me to agree with yours.
I discuss the game mostly to understand and for the love of the game. talking to people who i think are knowledgeable is always a pleasure even if they have a point of view different than mine because even then there is something to learn from them.
The problem is when people think it somehow shows them in poor light if they donyt keep on attacking those who disagree and worse still, use silly and childish phrases claiming themselves to be intellectually superior, technelogically more savvy than other etc etc. This just shows what they wish to get out of being on this board. And once that is clear, I do not debate with them anymore. they are free to think that it is because I am not able to counter their arguments but for me it has to be a discussion which is pleasurable to both. Anything short of that doesnt interst me.
Please remember this for the future.
Thanks for your patience at my verbosity
