Kevin Pietersen facing investigation, sanctions for racism/corruption comments

[Langeveldt]

Cricket was always viewed as a very Anglo sport by Afrikaaners and the schools payed little heed to it compared to Rugby etc. In other words it was the enemies game. And even now with it flourishing it is doing so despite the system. I know many talented Afrikaans guys that are getting screwed by the system. What is happening is that they are just taking over places from the English speakers. There can still only be 6 whites out of a 12 man squad no matter what their 1st language is.

Apart from SA Crickets development figures. talking to Afrikaaner guys that played rep cricket in the 70s and 80s they would say that they were the only non-English speaking player on the team. Now junior cricket is predominently all Afrikaans with the occasional English speaker and the quota players.

Afrikaans cricket is incredible. The drive, dedication and work ethic is unlike anything Ive seen before. Here in lies another problem with quotas in that the Dutchmen have succeeded through toil and effort whereas Black Africans have their places assured. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why they are succeeding and others arent.

Interesting point again when I realized the makeup of my local side, Stella Londt Park..

We play in the Nelson Mandela Metropolitan league, and whilst I speak Afrikaans, I am the only person in the team not of Afrikaans heritage.. We have no coloured or black players either, and often play sides who are only coloured or black.. Not sure what to make of your comments and how they stack up but I assume quotas do not take place out of the age groups.. Any idea what the situation is in local Rugby?

 

[Madame*Cricket]

I also disagree with your comment about quotas at youth groups being abolished.. There are no quotas at the top, but AFAIK they are very much alive down the rungs in SA cricket

Maybe so in some areas of the country but in the Eastern Cape, certainly not. I may be female but I'm quite involved at provincial level. There are 3 players of colour (when the "target" set out was four) and none of them scream quota selection and, having seen a wide variety of school matches, nobody is better for those particular positions. And it isn't as if the Eastern Cape is devoid of talent, regardless of colour, with schools such as Kingswood, St. Andrews, Graeme College (best batsman at Nuffied/Khaya Majola Week, I reckon, in JJ Smuts) and Grey, we've got more than enough to pick from. In comparison, the u17 side has at least six or seven players of colour and they even picked a white fast bowler over a coloured one, even though they are even as far as ability is concerned, it was fitness and dedication that proved the difference.

 

[Langeveldt]

Maybe so in some areas of the country but in the Eastern Cape, certainly not. I may be female but I'm quite involved at provincial level. There are 3 players of colour (when the "target" set out was four) and none of them scream quota selection and, having seen a wide variety of school matches, nobody is better for those particular positions. And it isn't as if the Eastern Cape is devoid of talent, regardless of colour, with schools such as Kingswood, St. Andrews, Graeme College (best batsman at Nuffied/Khaya Majola Week, I reckon, in JJ Smuts) and Grey, we've got more than enough to pick from. In comparison, the u17 side has at least six or seven players of colour and they even picked a white fast bowler over a coloured one, even though they are even as far as ability is concerned, it was fitness and dedication that proved the difference.

Good to hear, Goughy always surprises me when he talks about his negative experiences in Gauteng, as I haven't encountered many selection problems at all in PE.. Maybe its a regional thing.. I watched some womens cricket in Paarl and there was 1 non white girl playing.. Now either someone isn't enforcing their "targets" or there are just large regional variations in what goes on.. There are some really strong cricketing schools about though thats for sure..

 

[andmark]

I am against racism all the way and if he did he deservers everything he gets.

 

[Jamee999]

Mark, they're not accusing KP of being racist, they're accusing KP of calling someone else a racist.