Kapil vs Kohli

[Godard]

Whichever way Kohli has maintained his higher average over more matches/ for more runs, by scoring more in certain matches or not is irrelevant.

 

[Godard]

And tell me please which 3000 runs, in the sense from what time and how?

 

[Lillian Thomson]

What in the name of Beelzebub’s balls are you two on about?

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

We are comparing AB and Kohli on stats. Whatever 3000 runs helped Kohli to improve stats aren’t his fault. What you are saying is what helps Kohli’s stats shouldnt be considered valid? Why compare AB and Kohli at all then? And there is a diffence in averaging 53 and 56, made more distinct especially since the latter has maintained his average for a higher number of matches. There is also a distinct difference between there SR’s which i have never debated.

Because AB didn't get the chance to play more matches and Improve the stats like Kohli. So, we should add extra 3 points to AB avg as he was restricted to play fewer matches.

53 and 56 is a small gap
But 80 and 95 is a huge difference

 

[Xix2565]

@Pap Finn Keighl @Godard who ****ing cares, go spam together in a proper thread.

 

[Godard]

Because AB didn't get the chance to play more matches and Improve the stats like Kohli. So, we should add extra 3 points to AB avg as he was restricted to play fewer matches.

53 and 56 is a small gap
But 80 and 95 is a huge difference

Dude I have spent a lot of time trying to logically convince you that maintaining a high average over a larger number of matches is tougher bit easier, and atleast would not add 3 points to ABD’s average. Again it is tougher to maintain a higher average over more number of matches, so for you to assume that Kohli is lucky to play extra matches to boost his average goes contrary to logic. Also Kohli’s SR is 93, and AB 101, not 80 and 95.

 

[Godard]

You can compare Kohli’s first 228 matches vs AB’s 228 matches, Kohli’s AV and runs will be higher. You can say that Kohli got to play more matches in his peak, but it is harder to maintain peak performance when you can’t conserve your energy proper and have a higher workload to manage, it doesn’t end up boosting your average in any logical sense.

 

[ataraxia]

Thankfully I can't profess to have read it to any appreciable degree, but this must be the oddest / worst CW thread of the year. It's a back-and-forth - high-quality, I'm sure - where its interruptions are the defining features of the thread.

Anyway, to get the thread back on track, Jadeja ofc best Indian test cricketer obvs.

 

[Prince EWS]

Anyway, to get the thread back on track, Jadeja ofc best Indian test cricketer obvs.

Daily reminder that KL Rahul was the #1 keeper for his franchise till last year and also kept for us in T20Is.

 

[Coronis]

What in the name of Beelzebub’s balls are you two on about?

ODI cricket *shudders*

 

[h_hurricane]

Kohli was ahead before today's match. ABD ahead now.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Dude I have spent a lot of time trying to logically convince you that maintaining a high average over a larger number of matches is tougher bit easier, and atleast would not add 3 points to ABD’s average. Again it is tougher to maintain a higher average over more number of matches, so for you to assume that Kohli is lucky to play extra matches to boost his average goes contrary to logic. Also Kohli’s SR is 93, and AB 101, not 80 and 95.

Any evidence for "playing more reduces avg "? In fact, Kohli's case is opposite.
93 in easier era, 101 tougher era

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

You can compare Kohli’s first 228 matches vs AB’s 228 matches, Kohli’s AV and runs will be higher. You can say that Kohli got to play more matches in his peak, but it is harder to maintain peak performance when you can’t conserve your energy proper and have a higher workload to manage, it doesn’t end up boosting your average in any logical sense.

Any evidence?

 

[Bolo.]

Kohli was ahead before today's match. ABD ahead now.

You will deeply regret this post after India takes it by 8 runs, thanks to Kohli's matchwinning 9. The phrase to describe this 9 has already been coined, and will soon pass to its true owner.

 

[Godard]

Any evidence?

 

[Godard]

And if you want for era adjusted: after AB’s retirement till his own 228th ODI: Kohli scored 1273@70.72. Era adjusted I’ll take 60 as average. So for first 228 ODIs: Kohli’s runs and average= 9588(at 58.10)+1273(@60)= 10861@58.4. Clearly ahead in terms of average(nearly 5), and with 1500+ runs also.

 

[_00_deathscar]

This is still going?

 

[trundler]

The word era-adjusted is officially a trigger for me now.

 

[Prince EWS]

The word era-adjusted is officially a trigger for me now.

Era-adjustments are necessary if you want to compare ODI players statistically, especially for strike rate/economy rate, but you have to actually... do them. You can't just arbitrarily assign them.

It's like @Daemon's jokes, except they aren't joking.

 

[Gob]

Kapil wins this easily