Unfortunately the "better understanding" is just a figment of your imagination.Now that we've gotten a better understanding about how good Sobers really was, you can compare them fairly.
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You have repeated yourself that much, you somehow think people are starting to fall for it, when in fact most people on here would vote the same way again tomorrowThe problem is, you can't begin to say Kallis is great because almost invariably you're met with "Sobers is better" when he wasn't in some respects. For example, a lot of the same people in this thread used to say, "Sobers was better than Harmison, so don't even TRY to compare Kallis." Now that we've gotten a better understanding about how good Sobers really was, you can compare them fairly.
You have repeated yourself that much, you somehow think people are starting to fall for it, when in fact most people on here would vote the same way again tomorrow
And the Sheffield Shield would suddenly become meaningfulIt really needs a Miller v Kallis thread then we would see Kallis's stats dissected to prove how crap he really is.
And ironically by the same personIt really needs a Miller v Kallis thread then we would see Kallis's stats dissected to prove how crap he really is.
You ****s are ****ing still going on with this ****. FFS three or four days ago, weren't you going to stop?
(Not you Archie, talking the main statistical protagonists on here).
Go out and hit some ****ing cricket balls; play tennis, golf, touch footy or get hit by a ****ing bus.
Anything except more of this crap. Please.
Hmm...Murali > Warne IMO.And ironically by the same person
Come on, let's make it, a Kallis vs Miller thread...That'll be interesting, to say the least...
Or, better, let us all agree that Warne>Bradman>Miller>Lillee>Ponting>>>>Kallis>>>>>>All the lesser mortals who ever dared to play the great game of cricket......and after that hopefully we won't be tortured with these 30 page long threads any more, well hopefully...
Do you think Sobers was a better bowler than Harmison? Recognising the fact that he has trouble even in a comparison with Kallis as a bowler?You have repeated yourself that much, you somehow think people are starting to fall for it, when in fact most people on here would vote the same way again tomorrow
Do you think Sobers was a better bowler than Harmison? Recognising the fact that he has trouble even in a comparison with Kallis as a bowler?
I wasn't talking about others changing the vote, but becoming a tad more clearer who Sobers the bowler was.
Well I don't want to go through Sobers the bowler again, but I did not know how far his SR was away from the Ave of his time, so I did learn something, the problem was I learned that is your first six posts But still was an interesting fact
Shows you how much notice I takeThat was done to death a long time ago Arch, and explained. It first came up because of BS and his rather unhealthy obcession with Imran Khan.
Haha so true.It really needs a Miller v Kallis thread then we would see Kallis's stats dissected to prove how crap he really is.
That's a ****ing **** rant mate. That you cannot but **** all over Sir Gary should not be the case not to encourage those who do not suck upto his ****. This is not a ****ing ****cracy.You ****s are ****ing still going on with this ****. FFS three or four days ago, weren't you going to stop?
(Not you Archie, talking the main statistical protagonists on here).
Go out and hit some ****ing cricket balls; play tennis, golf, touch footy or get hit by a ****ing bus.
Anything except more of this crap. Please.
You could of course just not bother reading threads that you consider **** from the moment they first turn into the afforementioned ****. A bit like the Draft threads.T'aint the arguments mate, it's the fact they've been repeated over and over again. The first few pages were interesting reading. But the last however many have been like a re-run.
You ****s are ****ing still going on with this ****. FFS three or four days ago, weren't you going to stop?
(Not you Archie, talking the main statistical protagonists on here).
Go out and hit some ****ing cricket balls; play tennis, golf, touch footy or get hit by a ****ing bus.
Anything except more of this crap. Please.
True. It just took longer than I thought to dawn on me that I was essentially reading the same thing again and again.
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