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Kallis vs Murali

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subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Kallis isn't a top tier bat for me, and I think you need to be at least that to beat a top tier bowler like Murali.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
kyear2 said:
Kallis's added catching and bowling just bring so much value to a team.

An ATG no. 4
An ATG 2nd slip

A good 4th bowler who can be an AT 5th option, with a ridiculously high value of wicket.

Not only was he great, but ATG at 2 of the 3 premium positions in the game.
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To be fair Murali was an excellent fielder. Slips being tertiary that neutralises that advantage.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
kyear2 said:
Kallis's added catching and bowling just bring so much value to a team.

An ATG no. 4
An ATG 2nd slip

A good 4th bowler who can be an AT 5th option, with a ridiculously high value of wicket.

Not only was he great, but ATG at 2 of the 3 premium positions in the game.
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Murali is as good as Kallis in the field. Onlything that tikts the balance is the batting. Nothing else.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
ankitj said:
Murali is a handful of specialists I'd put ahead of Kallis. I consider Murali the greatest bowler of all time bar none.
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This is where I differ. I rate elite rounders above elite specialists. Same people who agree with me when I rate Kallis over Murali starts yapping and throwing hissy fits when I rate Sobers and Imran ober Bradman.
 
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Migara

Migara

International Coach
subshakerz said:
To be fair Murali was an excellent fielder. Slips being tertiary that neutralises that advantage.
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Murali was part of one of the elite out fielding units in mid 90s and early 2000s. He stopped diving around after the shoulder dislocation (was encouraged to back down a bit od his fielding enthusiastiasm to prevent freak injuries), but even then caught anything came his way.
 
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reyrey

State 12th Man
reyrey said:
Not so much from his teammates. Steyn picked Stokes over Kallis.
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I should probably give some context.

Steyn picked Stokes over Kallis because he felt having an all-rounder like Stokes around would always give the team the feeling they were always in the game. Whether they were chasing a big total or desperate for a wicket, having Stokes would make him feel like there was still a chance to win.

Steyn believed that this extra belief in tough situations would bring out the best in him and his teammates and ultimately it would be a better team with Stokes in it. That’s why he would choose Stokes over Kallis.
 
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subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
reyrey said:
I should probably give some context.

Steyn picked Stokes over Kallis because he felt like having Stokes around would always give the team the feeling they were always in the game. Whether they were chasing a big total or desperate for a wicket, having Stokes would make him feel like there was still a chance to win.

Steyn believed that this extra belief in tough situations would bring out the best in him and his teammates and ultimately it would be a better team with Stokes in it. That’s why he would choose Stokes over Kallis.
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Interesting. Goes to show there is more to team selection than just stat sheets.
 
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