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Kallis’s bowling vs Imran’s batting

Which is better?

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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Imran.

Kallis is a bowling equivalent to Hadlee's batting. Imran is a batting equivalent to Sobers' bowling.

Imran started out as a no.8, but for most of his career was no.6/7, and by the end of his career was regular no.6 He actually played as a pure bat too.

Kallis was only that level in the first 1/3rd of his career when he was taking 2 wickets a test. After that, he just wasn't as effective or bowled as much.
 
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kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
It's attempting to add a level of toxicity to the forum, only reason it hasn't, is because no one's falling for it.

But why are we trying to pull down players to make your guy look good?
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
First half of Imran's career he averaged 25, second half at 51. Kallis' bowling average barely deviated at all during his career, he just didn't bowl as much as he got older, but he was still knocking them out at 33 ish. His batting average barely changed either. He wins through consistency.
 
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nuclearn1c

Cricket Spectator
Molehill said:
First half of Imran's career he averaged 25, second half at 51. Kallis' bowling average barely deviated at all during his career, he just didn't bowl as much as he got older, but he was still knocking them out at 33 ish. His batting average barely changed either. He wins through consistency.
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That’s just not true for Kallis. His bowling average started steadily increasing after 2002. And he had a shocking start at batting, his average only breaking the 40 mark after about 40 tests.
 
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reyrey

U19 Captain
nuclearn1c said:
That’s just not true for Kallis. His bowling average started steadily increasing after 2002. And he had a shocking start at batting, his average only breaking the 40 mark after about 40 tests.
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You make a valid point, but it's not as bad as you're making out. Kallis broke the 40 mark after 26 Tests and never dropped below it after 29 Tests.

His bowling also was still pretty consistent until around 2009. He averaged 30.35 after 22 tests, 30.19 (58 tests) 30.01 (74 tests) and 30.88 in March 2009 after 127 tests. He was of course a better bowler early in his career where he spent a lot of time averaging high 20s.
 
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nuclearn1c

Cricket Spectator
reyrey said:
You make a valid point, but it's not as bad as you're making out. Kallis broke the 40 mark after 26 Tests and never dropped below it after 29 Tests.

His bowling also was still pretty consistent until around 2009. He averaged 30.35 after 22 tests, 30.19 (58 tests) 30.01 (74 tests) and 30.88 in March 2009 after 127 tests. He was of course a better bowler early in his career where he spent a lot of time averaging high 20s.
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Yeah I’m off by ten. But even so, his average kept ticking up almost every year after that. Saying his batting average didn’t change makes no sense.

Same for his bowling. He averaged over 40 in 4 entire calendar years, and in the 20s for many years. there’s nothing consistent about that. I’m staring at Khan’s stats there’s nothing out of the ordinary regarding his bowling: he bowled much less in his last 15 tests, averaging pretty much the same as in his first 25. If you look at his batting average by year then he’s hardly an enigma as a batsman. Averaging 70+ in his last 15 tests while bowling much less isn’t that odd.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
nuclearn1c said:
Yeah I’m off by ten. But even so, his average kept ticking up almost every year after that. Saying his batting average didn’t change makes no sense.

Same for his bowling. He averaged over 40 in 4 entire calendar years, and in the 20s for many years. there’s nothing consistent about that. I’m staring at Khan’s stats there’s nothing out of the ordinary regarding his bowling: he bowled much less in his last 15 tests, averaging pretty much the same as in his first 25. If you look at his batting average by year then he’s hardly an enigma as a batsman. Averaging 70+ in his last 15 tests while bowling much less isn’t that odd.
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Define: consistency
 
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