Joel Garner vs Shane Warne

[Johan]

Sayon and Coronis posting one after another is so awesome

 

[sayon basak]

Pretty sure you’re thinking of Akram..

Anyway Garner has pretty close to perfect splits on top order/middle order/tail wickets (as defined by howstat at least: 1-3, 4-7, 8-11)

85, 87, 87

Hmm pretty high for a pacer, almost as high as spinners.

 

[Johan]

Pretty sure you’re thinking of Akram..

Anyway Garner has pretty close to perfect splits on top order/middle order/tail wickets (as defined by howstat at least: 1-3, 4-7, 8-11)

85, 87, 87

Check Miller's

 

[Coronis]

Check Miller's

65, 67, 38

 

[Johan]

65, 67, 38

Damn Miller's 1-7 WPI is very close to Wasim's

 

[shortpitched713]

Guess being a side character could be a big point against Garner as well.

He also had a tougher role of being primarily a first change instead of new ball bowler, and still has among the very best averages of all time.

 

[Coronis]

Hmm pretty high for a pacer, almost as high as spinners.

I don’t think its necessarily a good stat used in isolation. A lot of factors go into it.

 

[DrWolverine]

Guess being a side character could be a big point against Garner as well.

Is he the best ever supporting act ever?

 

[sayon basak]

Pretty sure you’re thinking of Akram..

Akram's tail end wickets percentage: 35.02%
Garner's tail end wicket percentage: 33.59%

But do agree that it's not a very reasonable metric to downplay Garner. Just was saying that he was downgraded for the matter by quite a few.

 

[sayon basak]

Is he the best ever supporting act ever?

Yeah, that's why he's rated as high as he's rated. But do think being a supporting act in the first place hurts his cause a bit.

 

[shortpitched713]

Yeah, that's why he's rated as high as he's rated. But do think being a supporting act in the first place hurts his cause a bit.

Why though? He isn't getting the support that a primary quick gets of having the new ball. But he averages as low as any new ball bowler in history.

 

[Coronis]

Akram's tail end wickets percentage: 35.02%
Garner's tail end wicket percentage: 33.59%

But do agree that it's not a very reasonable metric to downplay Garner. Just was saying that he was downgraded for the matter by quite a few.

I just don’t remember it being brought up tbh

 

[sayon basak]

I just don’t remember it being brought up tbh

I do. I brought it up myself against him once. So as I did, I thought others would do it as well. Ok I might be wrong.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Garner for his batting

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Warne is greater but imo not better.

 

[kyear2]

Warne is greater but imo not better.

This too is a reasonable argument

 

[DrWolverine]

Warne is greater but imo not better.

True.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Peak garner was ridiculous