kyear2
International Coach
Literally none of that is true. Miandad is a top 20 batsman of all time and Jadeja is more impactful as a bowler??? Really? And no, he's no where 2rd's of what he was as a batsman either.
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Javed Miandad vs Ravindra Jadeja
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kyear2
International Coach
No, no where is Jadeja anywhere close to Imran. Wtaf though.
ataraxia
International Coach
Bowlers better than batters.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
This Jadeja love is a symptom of a bigger virus on CW I have been fighting against.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
It’s just recency bias tbf. Guys like Jadeja,Ashwin and Root probably will be rated more accurately at the end of their careers after they decline a bit.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Maybe. I worry it will get worse because as time goes by, people forget the actual players when they play and just do blind stat reading.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Current Indian team has one of the most dominant home records of all time, if not the most and it is all purely due to Ashwin and Jadeja. Unless one turns a blind eye, one can clearly see that other boards are preparing zero spinning pitches purely to negate them. So, once they retire, they will only be under-rated based on their away record which will be seen without context.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Is this really the case? I feel it was tougher for spinners in these countries a decade ago than now. And why would they prepare such pitches even in series not involving India.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
It would be pretty funny if people start putting Jadeja into their all time teams after he’s retired
Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Sachin
Viv
Sobers
Gilchrist
Jadeja
Imran
Marshall
McGrath
Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Sachin
Viv
Sobers
Gilchrist
Jadeja
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Marshall
McGrath
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
Miandad was ahead until yesterday. Today's innings has taken Jadeja ahead.
How good was Otherdad?
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
You have the virus, Jadeja love is the cure.
I will say I was very impressed by Jadeja’s innings today. He has all the tools to go nuts but when the other Indian batsmen lost their minds he played within himself to bat England out of the game. Can see him end his career with 9/10 centuries and 300 wickets which would make him a premiere all rounder. Still not better than Miandad who was a top 5 bat for 15 years.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Counter-point: Ashwin isn't a particularly active cricketer.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Jadeja getting so many centuries looks very unlikely. Presently he has only 3 centuries and even converts this one; it would likely take him another 3-4 years to get so many centuries. Considering he already has 275 wickets, I think him getting 350 wickets is probably more likely.
Yes? Check the records of the spinners overall. Most teams rely more on pace so why should they make spinning wickets?
kyear2
International Coach
So by this argument Jadeja is greater than Smith, Tendulkar, Richards, Lara, heck, every batsman bar Bradman. Not to add McGrath, Marshall, Warne, Murali?
I just can't.
ataraxia
International Coach
At the very least he's definitely more impactful than those pure bats IMO, particularly the ones who aren't above average in the cordon.