Jasprit Bumrah vs Ray Lindwall

[kyear2]

I could argue even higher.

We can, but at that point it's

Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Steyn and Ambrose.

6 years into his career in '94, Ambrose was no less special tbh.

 

[sayon basak]

Isn't Boom the only bowler to take 200 wickets at an average lower than 20?

Yep. Pollock took 200 wickets @20.5; So, Bumrah is not only the only bowler to have 200 wickets at sub 20 average, but also the only bowler to reach 200 wickets at sub 20 average.

Hope it stays that way.

 

[Wanna_Be_AB]

Yep. Pollock took 200 wickets @20.5; So, Bumrah is not only the only bowler to have 200 wickets at sub 20 average, but also the only bowler to reach 200 wickets at sub 20 average.

Hope it stays that way.

I couldn't have imagined someone coming back from an injury & perform the way he is doing rn

 

[DrWolverine]

Yep. Pollock took 200 wickets @20.5

Even with his great figures, Shaun Pollock was considered the second best in his own team

 

[sayon basak]

Even with his great figures, Shaun Pollock was considered the second best in his own team

Understandable.

 

[kyear2]

Even with his great figures, Shaun Pollock was considered the second best in his own team

To be fair White Lightning is a borderline top 10 of all time guy.

 

[DrWolverine]

For me, The White Lightening is a Top 6-7 fast bowler.

 

[kyear2]

For me, The White Lightening is a Top 6-7 fast bowler.

Well yeah, when referencing top 10, I have 3 spinners included in there as well

 

[sayon basak]

Well yeah, when referencing top 10, I have 3 spinners included in there as well

Don't think @DrWolverine rates any spinners in his top 10.

 

[Johan]

Don't think @DrWolverine rates any spinners in his top 10.

spinners are inbred

 

[DrWolverine]

Fast bowlers are simply better in most places.

The oneplace spinners are supposed to be better is in India and the two spin legends failed here.

McGrath. Marshall. Hadlee. Donald. Steyn. Akram. Pretty much every top pacer has great record in India.

 

[kyear2]

Fast bowlers are simply better in most places.

The oneplace spinners are supposed to be better is in India and the two spin legends failed here.

McGrath. Marshall. Hadlee. Donald. Steyn. Akram. Pretty much every top pacer has great record in India.

Because the batsmen were brought up on spin. It's not that complicated.

Yes spin isn't as efficient, but they do have their advantages.

 

[ankitj]

It'd be fine to think Bumrah should've done better in those games in particular. The idea that he needs to do well against NZ specifically in the future to make up for those series and make his record "vs NZ" look better is what's dubious. All individual series are their own little thing.

If India are struggling in a home series vs SA for example and are under threat of losing at home again and Bumrah produces some magical spells to turn it around, it doesn't make it any less significant just because he's already done well vs SA before in his career. And a checklist indirectly does exactly that. Giving it undue importance downplays great performances vs certain other teams just because you've already done well vs them in the past . And hence are now "allowed" to be crap vs them for a few series since your overall average vs them is already great. It makes very little sense.

It's like they play cricket so that CWers can rate them.

 

[ankitj]

Because the batsmen were brought up on spin. It's not that complicated.

Yes spin isn't as efficient, but they do have their advantages.

If you look closely enough all cricketers suck.

 

[kyear2]

If you look closely enough all cricketers suck.

Ummm, sure?

I wasn't criticizing anyone. But ok.....