IS Moh Sami a Better(Much better)VErsion of Ata-Ur-Rehman?

[Bouncer]

This has been bugging me sice the India series earlier this yr....he seems to have few things similar to Ata, who mostly just seem to bang the ball on ground, mostly short of a good length and was very predictable...same is with sami who mosty seems to put the ball a little fuller than Ata but has been becoming predictable day by day...both Sami and Ata have kindaa similar action with just not w whole lot of back and Mid body being involved in their run-ups and delivery actions....both just seem to run in and bowl with using their shoulders and less of beding of their backs.....

So is sami just a Better Version of Ata, what do u guys think?

 

[KishanTeli]

To be honest, i didnt see Rehman bowl much, but I do think that Sami is slightly over-rated. He just doesn't seem to use his brain when he bowls (i've only seen him play against India though, Tests and ODI's which has been quite often lately). Obviously, with his pace he is likely to bowl some unplayable deliveries (which lead to wickets) but I feel he lacks consistency in his line and length and gives away too many '4-balls'.

This guy has a test bowling average of over 45, and his ER in ODI's is 4.87 which are both way too high IMO.

I can recall on a couple of occasions Rameez Raja saying he thinks he is over-rated as well.

Maybe i'm being harsh? Is his role just to bowl as fast as possible?

http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/PLAYERS/PAK/M/MOHAMMAD_SAMI_07010776/

 

[Mecnun]

Sami has been disappointing and I have been an advocate of dropping him from the team.. I actually think he lacks grey matter. He just bowls quick, no variety, no experimentation no thought or plan is evident from what I have seen of him so far. It is a shame really because I think he could be really good...Hope Bob Chacha works on him..

 

[EnglishRose]

Sami is absolute rubbish. The sooner Pakistani face up to that reality, the better it will be for them.

 

[Arjun]

Ata-ur-Rehman was terrible. The lesser said of him, the better.

Pakistan is lucky to have Mohammad Sami. He has a lot of talent, and power, to make an impact, but as someone pointed out, he doesn't use it well. This is where the catain and coach play a key role. Rather than use him as an old-ball bowler, with which he can do little useful, he has to be taught some good tricks of new-ball bowling. If he can get seam movement at the pace at which he bowls, he can be a very productive player for the team, and far more than that pie-throwing medium-pacer who now opens the bowling in ODI's for Pakistan.

 

[KishanTeli]

I can only remember Sami bowling well once, and that was the second ODI between Pakistan and India in Pakistan. He was getting alot of reverse swing and actually thinking about where he is going to bowl.

I think it was the game when India were chasing 320 odd (?) and just came up short after Sachin had scored 143 (?). Can't be bothered to check.

 

[Buddhmaster]

I've never known wat was so good about Sami. He's really nothing special. Too unpredictable and doesn't do enough damage.

 

[PAKMAN]

hez like afridi good on his day

 

[Hit4Six]

hez like afridi good on his day

but how rare those days are

 

[PAKMAN]

but how rare those days are

GOOD QUESTION

 

[Choora]

GOOD QUESTION

Sami is a nightmare for his own team's captain, and a dream for opponent team captain! What a messed up bowler this guy is.


Atta was worse though.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Ata-ur-Rehman was terrible. The lesser said of him, the better.

Pakistan is lucky to have Mohammad Sami. He has a lot of talent, and power, to make an impact, but as someone pointed out, he doesn't use it well. This is where the catain and coach play a key role. Rather than use him as an old-ball bowler, with which he can do little useful, he has to be taught some good tricks of new-ball bowling. If he can get seam movement at the pace at which he bowls, he can be a very productive player for the team, and far more than that pie-throwing medium-pacer who now opens the bowling in ODI's for Pakistan.

sorry to say, but every bowler at test level needs to be able to take a wicket with an old ball - you'll only ever get 7 overs max where the ball is "new"

 

[Buddhmaster]

Sorry to ask, but who was Ata-Ur-Rehman?

 

[PAKMAN]

Sorry to ask, but who was Ata-Ur-Rehman?

THE THAT GOT TENDULKER OUT
IN THE QUARTER FINAL OF WORLD CUP 96

 

[Richard]

He also toured England in 1996, and provided respite from Wasim, Waqar and, above all, Mushtaq.

 

[Richard]

hez like afridi good on his day

And like the post-2002 Afridi those good days are so infrequent that his overall record is abominable.

 

[Beleg]

I rather like Mohammad Sami. He is a hard-worker, does not shy of being the work-horse and can ball for long-hours unchanged. And he can be pretty devestating on his day. His figures against NZ are a proof of that. But on the other hand I agree with those who complain about his consistency. I guess his main problem is that he doesn't seem to have mastered the art of reverse-swing, which at his pace effectively renders him useless against master batsmen on flat pitches that we get now a days.

And comparing him to Ata-ur-Rahman is a friggin' disgrace.