A cruel piss-take my friend.Come again??
Sorry mate I was trying to ram home your point, not have a go at youThe smiley not give it away AM? Maybe I am being too clever...
Oh, cool.Sorry mate I was trying to ram home your point, not have a go at you
I was not aware of his poor record against Aust. what was his Test average?Oh, cool.
Though my point was not the current state of flat deckedness.
Rather that AD had (iirc) a relatively poor record against Australia.
Unsurprisingly, Healy is talking out of his ass. Steyn was dropped after the England series in early 2005 and returned a year later against New Zealand at home. Since that series, Dale has been involved in every test match possible, only missing a few test matches due to injury. In other words he hasn’t been dropped four times and he has played fifteen test matches not ten, twelve in the past two years.Slightly off-topic, but still related to Steyn, has anyone heard something about him being selected for the 4th time?
I heard it on the Cricket show from ian Healy and seems like an unfair criticism of Steyn, he's only played 10 or so Test amtches and for such a young person, it is obvious that more often than not he will be the fall guy. Add to that quotas, a certain amount of depth in the fast bowling ranks of SA and incumbents - i don't really see where Healy was going with that comment.
Also both players have very similar actions.Trying for the 3rd time (**** you Mozilla ), and with 39 Test scalps this year thus far at an average of 14 and a s/r of 26, including ripping up New Zealand (who let's face it are not Test standard ATM) with 20 wickets against them, he did bowl with pace and he put Craig Cumming into hospital with a killer bouncer. He took 9 wickets in Pakistan, although I didn't see that series, he did go for a bit of tap runs wise. And obviously there he needs to improve his economy rate in ODIs as in anybodies language going at over 6 is not acceptable (maybe how one-day cricket is going maybe we will be thankful of such mercies eventually), but he has 7 games under his belt so there is no time on his side. He has followed the Donald approach in playing for Warwickshire already.
Goughy said:I played in the same league as him (he played for Eersterust, a cricket club from a coloured township where they apparantly invested their development money on him, Alfie Thomas and others)
Ive seen him bowl a number of times in the flesh and on TV.
As our boys said in the league game, he isnt short of pace.
My main worries are that whilst he is quick he isnt a genuine 'express'. This combined with his lack of height means that he will struggle for weapons on docile tracks and when the shine goes off the ball.
On the plus side, he isnt slow, can bowl good outswing, has the ability to bowl the magic ball and is getting better all the time.
I think he is destined for a good career but not a great one. When he is on form and full of beans or when conditions suit he will be dangerous. I just think that in between these successes there will be more barren spells than you would expect from a top quality fast bowler.
Completely agree with that.Goughy said:I think he is destined for a good career but not a great one. When he is on form and full of beans or when conditions suit he will be dangerous. I just think that in between these successes there will be more barren spells than you would expect from a top quality fast bowler.
Nah, I resisted. The "no" is an impossible option not to choose.This thread needs Richard...
And that's so, so grossly misreprisented. Donald's average against Australia in his first 11 games (ie, excluding those where he was a skeleton of the bowler he'd once been) was 27.85, not as good as against the other sides he faced but still hardly abysmal. Most bowlers have some form of "bogey" team, even Glenn McGrath was less successful against South Africa than he was against anyone else.Rather that AD had (iirc) a relatively poor record against Australia.
And that's so, so grossly misreprisented. Donald's average against Australia in his first 11 games (ie, excluding those where he was a skeleton of the bowler he'd once been) was 27.85, not as good as against the other sides he faced but still hardly abysmal. Most bowlers have some form of "bogey" team, even Glenn McGrath was less successful against South Africa than he was against anyone else.
Donald had plenty of good games against Australia, taking 7-117 at The SCG in 1993\94, 6-137 at Kingsmead in the same season, 8-96 at Centurion in 1996\97 and 9-133 at The MCG in 1997\98. It's not like he was completely conquered by them, at all. Nor that Australia were even the best batting-line-up of his day.