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Irony of The Australian Cricket Team

Will Scarlet

U19 Debutant
Ponting's just dirty about coming back after the series was won and looking like an ass when AUS lost the fourth test. Is Gilly simply a better captain or does this again show that when you have by far the best team you'll generally win, regardless of who captains the team.

If this has been stated already, I apologise.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Western Warrior said:
"There was very little batsmen could do on a track like that."
yes and i suppose that he prefers wickets where there is little bowlers can do on them like the several we saw in australia last winter.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Will Scarlet said:
Ponting's just dirty about coming back after the series was won and looking like an ass when AUS lost the fourth test. Is Gilly simply a better captain or does this again show that when you have by far the best team you'll generally win, regardless of who captains the team.

If this has been stated already, I apologise.
no it had barely anything to do with captaincy, the plans were already laid out before the series and all both captains had to do was to follow them.
the reason why australia lost has to do with complacency(and face it they do have problems winning dead rubber) and the fact that hauritz played instead of warne.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Actually, I get the feeling the loss of Lehmann from the middle order was quite a key one given that pitch.
 

bugssy

Cricketer Of The Year
marc71178 said:
Actually, I get the feeling the loss of Lehmann from the middle order was quite a key one given that pitch.

mark i totally agree with ya, lehman is one of the better players of spin in the australian side.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Western Warrior said:
Following on the 'pitch' debate

Ponting "dug his own grave", says controversial Test pitch curator
Tuesday November 9, 10:23 PM

NEW DELHI (AFP) - A former India captain who prepared the crumbling pitch for last week's Bombay Test against world champions Australia defended himself by passing the blame on touring skipper Ricky Ponting.

Polly Umrigar, chief curator of the Wankhede stadium track where 40 wickets fell in less than three days, leading to India's stunning 13-run win, said the pitch crumbled because Ponting used the heavy roller on it in both innings.

"We had prepared a firm, hard pitch that would have turned from third day onwards," Umrigar, 78, told AFP.

"Ponting himself said the wicket was dry. If it was dry, why did he want the heavy roller on it?

"If the pitch was bad, would nearly 300 runs be scored on it on each of the second and third days?

"The truth is Australia could not handle our spinners."

Captains have the option of getting the wicket rolled by light or heavy rollers before the start of their team's innings.

On the rain-hit first day when just 11 overs were bowled, 22 runs were scored for the loss of two wickets. The second day produced 290 runs for 18 wickets and the third 293 runs for 20 wickets.

Australia, set a modest fourth innings target of 107, were shot out for 93 to give India a face-saving win.

Australia, who were already assured of their first series win on Indian soil since 1969 after taking a 2-0 lead in the four-match rubber, had to settle for a 2-1 scoreline instead of a 3-0 rout.

Ponting said after the match he would be reporting the pitch to the International Cricket Council.

"It was nowhere near a Test wicket," Ponting said. "It was disappointing for everyone, the players and the fans, that the match ended so fast.

"There was very little batsmen could do on a track like that."

India made 104 in their first innings and 205 in the second while Australia scored 203 and 93, their lowest ever score in India.

Umrigar, one of India's most respected cricketers who played 59 Tests between 1948 and 1961, scoring 3,631 runs at an average of 42, received no support from the Bombay Cricket Association (BCA).

BCA vice-president Dilip Vengsarkar, himself a former Test captain, said the pitch "was unsuitable for Test cricket."

"It was a bad advertisement for Test cricket," Vengsarkar said. "We will ensure this does not happen again because the cricket-loving people of Bombay deserve full five days of action."
Fair enough I guess, but as for the reference to '300 runs being scored on each of the 2nd and 3rd days' it could be because each team batted twice haha.

I think the guy's on the defensive, but i don't think it's worth all the furore.
 

Majin

International Debutant
"I wonder if they would have still whined had Australia, and not India, won the Mumbai Test" - Harbhajan Singh

Me too. :}
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Majin said:
"I wonder if they would have still whined had Australia, and not India, won the Mumbai Test" - Harbhajan Singh

Me too. :}
I think it's been posted that 'they'd' already said something before the result.
 

Majin

International Debutant
Yeah but if they'd have won I reckon they would have changed their tune pretty sharpish.
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
Majin said:
Yeah but if they'd have won I reckon they would have changed their tune pretty sharpish.
I will state it again - just because India PLAYED BETTER than Australia on that pitch and WON does not make it a good pitch. When I watch a test match I want to see more than 2 days cricket. I want to see the ball beat the bat and the bat beat the ball. I want to see an even contest between bat and ball. I want to see a pitch which allows top class players to be able to display their skills to the full and be rewarded. I want to see a game of cricket - not survival.

The result is immaterial - Mumbai was not a good pitch.

p.s. Which victory do the Indian supporters treasure more - the one in Adelaide last year or this one?
 

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