IPL criticisms

[honestbharani]

Alot of people seem to have a serious problem with both the IPL and ICL but you have to ask if this is an inevitable event considering the ICC's dire handling of cricket in general. The ICC let the situation evolve where multiple codes have developed and elitism in an increasingly global sport has not been tackled. For the integrity of cricket as a whole the ICC must be removed and the ICL and IPL are the first step in this direction.

Cricket is bizarre in the sense that it has three codes(First-class, ODI, T20) That are played by the same players in a largely international capacity. The main problem with this is that the schedule is overcrowded. Splitting cricket into two Or three different governing bodies with a a separate team for each format is the only way forward.

That's one concept but in all honesty I'd prefer if ODI and T20 was played in Tournaments like the IPL and ICL with only the World cups being the international participation in the codes. That would leave The International side plenty of time for First-class cricket. In this case both sides win as the avant-garde get plenty of entertainment, just not on an international level; and the traditionalists get more test matches.

Excellent point and I agree, but the thing with that is, the finances will be rather scanty for the ones playing tests and FC while the ICL and IPL will guarantee amazing money for the limited overs players.


Ideally, I would like the IPL to be a one off for Twenty20 alone which takes place annually with as many international players as they can get and a time of two months be simply set aside for it. It will help some of the players from the not so financially strong cricket board nations to earn good money and it will make cricket seem that much better a career option for these guys. Let the Stanford Twenty20 and this one be the only such events and set aside time for these.... Allow only few more Twenty20 games internationally and drastically cut down the number of ODIs per year. Increase the tests and warm up games, if possible and please, for God's sakes, put away the champions trophy idea for T20...


Cricket, unlike soccer or NFL or Basketball, has different formats which are extremely varied and which require very different skill sets and we have to protect it. Which is why the need of the hour is a bit of ingenuity from the guys running, or at least trying to run, it than just being a copycat of soccer and NBA and NFL and MLB etc...

 

[Janus]

Cricket, unlike soccer or NFL or Basketball, has different formats which are extremely varied and which require very different skill sets and we have to protect it. Which is why the need of the hour is a bit of ingenuity from the guys running, or at least trying to run, it than just being a copycat of soccer and NBA and NFL and MLB etc...

Rugby is a Sport of many different formats aswell, all sides seem to exist quite safely despite not interacting with each other. Cricket can in my opinion survive and even thrive separated. You can't continue with the same teams playing all three formats as burnout is inevitable and is already been seen. Cricket must for the sake of the players well-being divide into Test/FC and ODI/T20 camps just like rugby split into Union and League.

 

[Langeveldt]

I'd rather see the ICC reformed than just sold off to the highest bidder.. Multiple governing bodies will see the world game fragment into pieces, which, judging by a thread I made last year, wouldn't be a popular thing??

 

[silentstriker]

I'd rather see the ICC reformed than just sold off to the highest bidder.. Multiple governing bodies will see the world game fragment into pieces, which, judging by a thread I made last year, wouldn't be a popular thing??

What reforms are you talking about?

 

[R_D]

What reforms are you talking about?

Where the old timers had the upper hand in everything i assume.

 

[Richard]

R_D is back!

 

[pup11]

The only problem with IPL for me is that how much passion would it be able to create among the viewers but more importantly among the players, i mean would a foreign player or for that matter even a local player really care whether his franchise does well or not as long as they get their fat paychecks, so it would look pretty bad if the players look disinterested in the proceedings of the game while playing in this series.

 

[honestbharani]

Rugby is a Sport of many different formats aswell, all sides seem to exist quite safely despite not interacting with each other. Cricket can in my opinion survive and even thrive separated. You can't continue with the same teams playing all three formats as burnout is inevitable and is already been seen. Cricket must for the sake of the players well-being divide into Test/FC and ODI/T20 camps just like rugby split into Union and League.

yep... finally, that is what might end up happening, but as of now, I would rather see tours with 3 FC games, 3 to 5 tests, 3 T20s and maybe the sole ODI. I know the finance guys prefer ODIs to both tests and T20s, as a 7 hour feast is better than one of 3 hours and one of 5 days... But that is what I want to see happening. And if they throw in the IPL and Stanford T20 with windows created for both in the annual calendar, and restrict ODIs and international T20s to the WC and a Champions Trophy, it might be the best.

 

[Howsie]

IPL-Nothing more then another Rebel League

Lloyd criticises Windies preparations:

Lloyd hinted he was not entirely convinced at the reasons offered by the West Indies board for Bravo's continued participation for the Mumbai Indians while the Test series in England proceeds. Bravo was officially stood down from the two Tests against England after the Windies medical staffed deemed his ankle not yet ready for the rigours of Test cricket, but some, including respected Caribbean commentator Tony Cozier, have pondered whether Bravo's move was in some part motivated by his well-publicised feud with the WICB. The player himself is clearly not feeling any side-effects, having starred for Mumbai Indians with a matchwinning 70 not out on Tuesday

There is no difference between the IPL and ICL, I thought the IPL was created to stop players from going to the ICL whilst still playing for there country. I remember when this first come out and we were told that it would not affect players playing for there country, if the IPL was not on right now Dwayne Bravo would be playing for the West Indies, I have no doubt about that. I feel that if your country is playing international cricket you should be banned from playing in the IPL. The day your team leaves to go to another country to play cricket is the day the ban should take place. If Bravo was playing in the ICL, just like Shane Bond was told he wouldn’t miss ANY games for his country.

 

[pasag]

There is no difference between the IPL and ICL, I thought the IPL was created to stop players from going to the ICL whilst still playing for there country.

No, it was created by the BCCI to kill the ICL as not to erode their power base.

 

[Cruxdude]

There is no difference between the IPL and ICL, I thought the IPL was created to stop players from going to the ICL whilst still playing for there country. I remember when this first come out and we were told that it would not affect players playing for there country, if the IPL was not on right now Dwayne Bravo would be playing for the West Indies, I have no doubt about that. I feel that if your country is playing international cricket you should be banned from playing in the IPL. The day your team leaves to go to another country to play cricket is the day the ban should take place. If Bravo was playing in the ICL, just like Shane Bond was told he wouldn’t miss ANY games for his country.

The thing you are missing is this West Indies tour of England was not scheduled originally when the IPL was announced. It was supposed to be Zimbabwe vs England. Zimbabwe were kicked out of test cricket, s Sri Lanka was called. The players since they knew the IPL is already scheduled during that time protested and Sri Lanka refused to tour. Then ECB went to WICB ad WICB accepted without consulting the players who had alreay signed for IPL 2. So it is not right on your part to blame IPL for something that was not on the FTP but was hastily organized with no input form the players.

 

[Edged&Taken]

select bravo to play the next test and he could leave tomorrow...

 

[Polo23]

The thing you are missing is this West Indies tour of England was not scheduled originally when the IPL was announced. It was supposed to be Zimbabwe vs England. Zimbabwe were kicked out of test cricket, s Sri Lanka was called. The players since they knew the IPL is already scheduled during that time protested and Sri Lanka refused to tour. Then ECB went to WICB ad WICB accepted without consulting the players who had alreay signed for IPL 2. So it is not right on your part to blame IPL for something that was not on the FTP but was hastily organized with no input form the players.

First priority should be to play for your country, regardless of when the tour was organised.

People seem to forget that the only reason they have an IPL contract is because they performed well for their country in the first place.

 

[Cruxdude]

First priority should be to play for your country, regardless of when the tour was organised.

People seem to forget that the only reason they have an IPL contract is because they performed well for their country in the first place.

Yeah but it is not right on the part of WICB which already has no money to organize a cricket tour at the time their top cricketers can earn some money. This would have improved the troubled relationship between the player organization and WICB.

 

[Polo23]

Yeah but it is not right on the part of WICB which already has no money to organize a cricket tour at the time their top cricketers can earn some money. This would have improved the troubled relationship between the player organization and WICB.

Didn't Gayle (and most of the other top West Indian cricketers) win $1mill US last year through that crock Stanford T20 for 20?

I'm pretty sure all of those guys are sitting pretty financially.

 

[pasag]

Didn't Gayle (and most of the other top West Indian cricketers) win $1mill US last year through that crock Stanford T20 for 20?

I'm pretty sure all of those guys are sitting pretty financially.

From memory quite a few lost a large amount of it by reinvesting in Stanford's companies.

 

[Shri]

Didn't Gayle (and most of the other top West Indian cricketers) win $1mill US last year through that crock Stanford T20 for 20?

I'm pretty sure all of those guys are sitting pretty financially.

So what if he had 1 million dollars? We should'nt decide how much money a person can or cannot have.

 

[Langeveldt]

So what if he had 1 million dollars? We should'nt decide how much money a person can or cannot have.

Sure, but it would be nice if players could earn more of it by playing real cricket for their country rather than a disgraceful, over rated, baseball-like abheration for some Indian city they have probably never even been to before..

 

[Prince EWS]

The key difference is the fact that the boards have to release the players to play in the IPL - if they don't, they can't play.

The Bravo situation is obviously far from ideal but the WICB seem, for whatever reason, completely okay with it. I dare say it has something to do with the money they owe Bravo (among other players) but at least he'll be back playing for the West Indies after this series. If the IPL didn't exist it's conceivable to suggest he may have quit West Indies cricket altogether over these contract disputes and found himself a county cricket contract or gone to the ICL.

 

[Cruxdude]

Sure, but it would be nice if players could earn more of it by playing real cricket for their country rather than a disgraceful, over rated, baseball-like abheration for some Indian city they have probably never even been to before..

Well this is never going to happen. The money in cricket is only in India and if it says it is T20 then it is T20 regardless of whether the player has been to the city or not.