Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Should have had Barry Richards opening.
From ones I've seen (tests)Box Office 11
Gilchrist
Sehwag
Viv
Lara
Pietersen
Devilliers
Kapil
Warne
Shoaib
Steyn
Lillee
Yeah they take more chances and aren’t as watertight. Pietersen’s game was risk and reward.It is very difficult for fast scoring batsmen like KP, Sehwag, Gilly to average 50. These don't put a premium on their wickets in easy condition and their batting style isn't suited for tough wickets particularly at the end of their career which results in quick decline in their batting average.
Even Richards just averaged 50. And Devilliers got his average above 50 in last series iirc.
Need to find space for PantFrom ones I've seen (tests)
Warner
Sehwag
Ponting
Lara
Pietersen
Flintoff
Gilchrist
Wasim
Warne
Steyn
Shoaib
Player of great knocks like GoochI will always have a slight tilt towards KP given his quality back to back high pressure series against McWarne. Australia never really feared Inzi.
KP also has an ATG knock in India and near ATG bashing of Steyn, plus a nifty double ton in Australia. I also think, even though he didn't score much, he was the only English bat not visibly humiliated by Johnson in his series of fire.
This is revisionism. Inzi was great against Ambrose and Walsh in WI. Nobody handled them with such disdain. He had a bad series against McGrath once. McGrath barely played in '05 if we're nitpicking. No Asian batsman except Tendulkar and Kohli has done well in SA.Only 1 of these players knew how to hold bat against Glenn McGrath . KP scored nearly 500 runs in Ashes 2006 against McWarne in Aus. Inzy averaged 0.5 against McGrath in 00 in AUS(2 runs in 2 Tests). Inzy record against SA was even more poor . Guy simply didn't know how to play quality pace attack.
And Samaraweera, somehow.No Asian batsman except Tendulkar and Kohli has done well in SA.
His overall record against AUS / SA is very underwhelming(home + away). Even Sehwag was very poor in SA . But he managed to destroy them on Asian tracks. Inzy failed to do even that.This is revisionism. Inzi was great against Ambrose and Walsh in WI. Nobody handled them with such disdain. He had a bad series against McGrath once. McGrath barely played in '05 if we're nitpicking. No Asian batsman except Tendulkar and Kohli has done well in SA.
Nah you are just brushing away Inzi's work against WI because it doesn't fit the narrative that he was terrible against pace. He was amazing in 2000. It was a low scoring series with lots of swing and movement. He hardly played against SA and Australia at home and he was fine when he did. KP benefits greatly from test spam and playing all his tests in a 7 year period. His average flatters him quite a bit imo. Played some great knocks but lots of dross in between too.Even Siddhu has a double century in WI. Ambrose for some reason was very poor against Asian sides.
Inzi averaged 43 in the 90s so it's irrelevant.These modern day fans are ignoring how tough it was to bat in the 90s. KP would've averaged 40 had he played in the 90s.
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I definitely agree McWarne held KP in much more respect than Inzi. In fact, I dont think anyone every took the attack to McGrath quite like KP did, even Lara.Only 1 of these players knew how to hold bat against Glenn McGrath . KP scored nearly 500 runs in Ashes 2006 against McWarne in Aus. Inzy averaged 0.5 against McGrath in 00 in AUS(2 runs in 2 Tests). Inzy record against SA was even more poor . Guy simply didn't know how to play quality pace attack.
Inzi also scored a ton against peak Ambrose as a youngster in WI in 93 and dominated Walsh/Ambrose in Pakistan in 97. His record against WI is a point in his favor.Nah you are just brushing away Inzi's work against WI because it doesn't fit the narrative that he was terrible against pace. He was amazing in 2000. It was a low scoring series with lots of swing and movement. He hardly played against SA and Australia at home and he was fine when he did. KP benefits greatly from test spam and playing all his tests in a 7 year period. His average flatters him quite a bit imo. Played some great knocks but lots of dross in between too.
nahNah you are just brushing away Inzi's work against WI because it doesn't fit the narrative that he was terrible against pace. He was amazing in 2000. It was a low scoring series with lots of swing and movement. He hardly played against SA and Australia at home and he was fine when he did. KP benefits greatly from test spam and playing all his tests in a 7 year period. His average flatters him quite a bit imo. Played some great knocks but lots of dross in between too.
Which means he averaged 54-55 compared to KPs 47 in the 00s.Inzi averaged 43 in the 90s so it's irrelevant.
Except he did well against the early '90s version too. If you actually watch the footage of that series, you'll see it was a very high quality of bowling. Do that instead of resorting to default excuses.nah
Also Ambrose was a shadow of his early 90s version by 2000
He was amazing in 2000. It was a low scoring series with lots of swing and movementExcept he did well against the early '90s version too. If you actually watch the footage of that series, you'll see it was a very high quality of bowling. Do that instead of resorting to default excuses.
Nah I watched that series. The first two tests were slow, deadish wickets in which neither team's batting could press the accelerator. Ambrose was past it but Walsh was in good form. The last test had some life in the pitch though.He was amazing in 2000. It was a low scoring series with lots of swing and movement
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