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Insane and mockery of Test cricket
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Athlai
Not Terrible
Comes close TBH.Gosh, we somehow forgot about Niall "not-a-sellout" O'Brien. Better keeper than England have itbt
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A fair few people would make a case for it (especially in ODIs).
The point is, Ireland should be nowhere near test cricket, but if they were I'd back them to make a better fist of it than Bangladesh. So it's a bit disheartening to see a team made of inferior players who show no fight and generally act like they don't want to be there when quality players like Morgan and O'Brien can only dream of playing tests for their country.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Ashraful had a terrible year, is out of form and is generally grossly over-rated in general. That said, he's still one of the six best batsmen in the country for mine and more likely to do something noteworthy in the medium term than several others. Ocassionally he is capable of playing a very good Test innings against good bowlers - until there is evidence to suggest someone else can, Ashraful's place shouldn't be called into question. Averaging 10 having proven the ability to average 35 > averaging 20 having proven the ability to average 20.
I'd play Rajin Saleh ahead of him at this point, but I'd still play Ashraful ahead of Kayes, and Siddique, so it's immaterial.
I'd play Rajin Saleh ahead of him at this point, but I'd still play Ashraful ahead of Kayes, and Siddique, so it's immaterial.
susudear
Banned
Don't agree
I agree with the Ashraeful part. But disagree Siddique. He has talent and is just one or two innings away from a good show. Of course, Kayes is a joke of an opener. But Ashraeful beats him.
Harry Harrison
Banned
Did you forget his marvellous 100 against the best Aussies side in ODI. He won a few AODIs for his team single handedly.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
The thread is about making a mockery of Test Cricket and those innings are therefore meaningless.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
If a teams best result is a nearly win then there is no greater damning.
It is improbable that a team could play so many matches and not win one. It isnt even as if they are drawing games.
Nearly winning counts for naught and when that is the best performance then it is embarassing.
I expect them to win a game or 2 soon, just because it is impossible to lose every game. It will not mean anything though.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
James
Cricket Web Owner
Fair point .
We can't get rid of Bangladesh now though after everything that has been done for them. Surely they'll improve sometime soon. Anyone know how long it look Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka and NZ to win their first Test?
Perhaps it's time to promote Kenya, Scotland, Ireland, Netherlands to Test cricket to even it out and go to a 2 Tier Test level with promotion/relegation?
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
I've been a supporter of a two-tier system for some time now, and if implemented properly it could really work.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
A rather hopeful attitude rather than one based on fact. They are still a milion miles away from other Test nations.
It brings to mind the old concept from the broadroom and the warroom of "Never Reinforce Failure"
There has to be a point where its becomes a complete waste of time and a black hole for time, effort and resources.
I have no issue with that idea at all.
Migara
International Coach
New Zealand was a joke for much longer time though
Migara
International Coach
So how many Mohammed Rafiques or Shakib Al hasans Ireland has produced? None. I'd take Mashrfe Mortaza over Boyd Rankin on any day of the year.
Migara
International Coach
Shakib >> BothaBangas don't have Andre Botha
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Shakib looks to have something about him, but Rafique? Do me a favour.
Kyle McCallan's career figures match up pretty well against his and he can't even get a county contract.
Migara
International Coach
Kyle who ever have bowled to FCC player who **** against spin. Rafiqe has bowled to players who are much accomplished in playing spin.Shakib looks to have something about him, but Rafique? Do me a favour.
And if you compare Vettori, who is the premier SLA bowler of the era (discounting the minnows)
Vettori Avg 37.7 SR 82.7, Rafique Avg 41.1 SR 84.6.
Vettori FCC Avg 31.0, Rafique Avg 28.0
I am LMAO when I tend to think that Vettori will not be selected for a county team based on that stats. In todays cricket, Rafique will walk in to any non-sub conitinental side as the spinner.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Even if all that were true (equating Bangladesh's domestic first-class competition to New Zealand's is self-defeating because if the players were any good, where are they on the international stage?!? But anyway...), having a (38 year old) spinner who may or may not be better than an Irish offie who can't get a domestic English contract even is an argument for Bangladesh having test status how, exactly? Intrigued to know.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
I quite like Mushfiqur Rahim, he's certainly an acceptable Test Wicket Keeper, better than West Indies current keeper Ramdin for sure.
Mortaza is quite okay, but obviously averaging just over 40 isn't good enough. Shakib Al Hasan has been tremendous this year and at only 21 he has an exciting future, hopefully he doesn't get overbowled though!
Tamim Iqbal is probably the young batter with the most talent, interested in seeing how he progresses.
I think we need to be a bit more patient, remembering that most of the team is under 25 years of age, so they do have some time of their side.
One thing what I hope doesn't happen is that this group all gets dropped at around the same time, so Bangladesh bring in a new batch of under 21s again.
Mortaza is quite okay, but obviously averaging just over 40 isn't good enough. Shakib Al Hasan has been tremendous this year and at only 21 he has an exciting future, hopefully he doesn't get overbowled though!
Tamim Iqbal is probably the young batter with the most talent, interested in seeing how he progresses.
I think we need to be a bit more patient, remembering that most of the team is under 25 years of age, so they do have some time of their side.
One thing what I hope doesn't happen is that this group all gets dropped at around the same time, so Bangladesh bring in a new batch of under 21s again.
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