Shri
Mr. Glass
Yeah. Only shot MJ looks dangerous when playing in the pull.
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Indian Premier League 2014
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King Pietersen
International Captain
40 off 13 not a bad way to finish off an innings. Superb batting from Bailey.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
He literally turned around and turned his back. Definitely not looking to play a shot.
He also pulled out of throwing his bat, that's why the bat didn't go at Starc.
karan316
State Vice-Captain
Which means things could have turned even more ugly. But seems like such acts are indirectly encouraged, maybe because its entertaining to some fans. Even in international games, there isn't much done to stop such ugly incidents. Banning for a few games would be perfect, but it doesn't happen. And I guess giving a warning when the bowlers send off a batsmen would also be the right thing to do. I know such things to get a lot of attention, but it can only harm the game in the longer run.He's well within his right to mouth off at Pollard after beating him with a bouncer tbf.
Pollard made the first dick move by pulling away when Starc was just about to hit his delivery stride. I thought it was intentional but it could be debateable. However that definitely did not warrant hurling a ball at a 140ks at someone who had literally turned his back to him. If Pollard was hit or injured there Starc would be in deep ****. Pollard's reaction was uncalled for as well, if you say his bat slipped out of his hand and fell to the ground, what if it had slipped slightly earlier and hit Starc? Both of them basically lost their temper and did something stupid in the spur of the moment.
Personally thought it was pretty awesome and took perverse pleasure in watching it unfold
I don't think the IPL committee will mind it either because it'll definitely help generate hype and interest for this season at least. They're even cashing in on it by posting it on the Youtube channel with the title CRICKET FIGHT..
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viriya
International Captain
I've been thinking about this too - it would be great if you could have possibly 2 more teams from Sri Lanka and 1 from Bangladesh to start with. Colombo Lions.. Dhaka Tigers.. anyone?
I think the main reason this won't happen is because the BCCI would not be willing to share the riches with the other boards.. Pity though they will kill off BPL and SLPL with one masterstroke (albeit SLPL is dead already).. The SL team could have SL players as locals with the same for the Bangla team.. this would make sure the quality of the tournament isn't diluted.. The flight times to matches would not be significantly different too so that is not an issue..
I think something like this would eventually happen - might have to wait for Pak to come back into the fold though (so a while from now)...
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
We already have Champions league in which teams from other countries participate. Why do we need to have foreign teams for IPL too? Already, IPL is dominated by foreign players. Indian flavour will completely go off if 3 more pure foreign teams come in.
G.I.Joe
International Coach
From what I understand, the IPL has been frozen at eight teams for the next two editions as a matter of policy. Once the IPL completes ten years, the founding franchises get to keep 100% of all revenue they generate individually (currently each franchise contributes a fraction of gate receipts and related income to the BCCI). In order to generate continuing revenue, the BCCI will resort to floating more teams. I don't see the PCB or SLC permitting local franchises without getting their cut. If there's one thing the BCCI is good at, it's in maximising their financial returns. Therefore any new franchises will most likely be Indian. There are plenty of Indian cities and promoters interested in owning franchises. Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc don't stand a chance.
Shri
Mr. Glass
Yeah well we don't need a Champions League 2.0
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Does the Big Bash League have teams from New Zealand playing? Do you expect New Zealand's HRV Cup to invite a BBL team to play? Do you expect either event to invite teams from Samoa or Papua New Guinea? Or Kenyan/Zimbabwean/Namibian teams playing in the Ram Slam? Or any non-English team outside the UK playing in the Friends' Life T20? Or the Caribbean League inviting teams from the United States or Central America?
There's no reason why only the IPL has to welcome foreign teams, apart from the excessive dependence on foreign players, which is squeezing out the Indian element from the tournament. A more valid criticism of the Board of Control Freaks is their tight-fisted attitude in running to the ground the BPL and SLPL, and not letting any of the Indian players play in leagues overseas, or letting overseas players from the IPL represent their home country's teams.
There's no reason why only the IPL has to welcome foreign teams, apart from the excessive dependence on foreign players, which is squeezing out the Indian element from the tournament. A more valid criticism of the Board of Control Freaks is their tight-fisted attitude in running to the ground the BPL and SLPL, and not letting any of the Indian players play in leagues overseas, or letting overseas players from the IPL represent their home country's teams.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
wait, doesn't the BCCI generate revenue by selling the TV rights etc? Do the franchises not pay any competition fee?
G.I.Joe
International Coach
They do. I think the franchises pay around 30% of their revenue to the BCCI currently. Don't hold me to it because I have the memory of a goldfish and have got plenty wrong recently
I do not recall the breakup.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Let's look at Rajasthan Royals now. They've had a good run across the tournament, with their young players getting plenty of chances, and doing good for the team, but their recent loss showed that at an individual level, there is a real lack of quality. While I do believe Rahane, Samson, Karun, Abdulla, and in limited space of T20, Pravin Tambe, are of decent quality, it's difficult to say that about every player in a team that's loaded with bits-and-pieces players, but has no concrete strategy for each. Stuart Binny is a bit of a batsman and less a bowler, while Rajat Bhatia the inverse. They also have Abhishek Nayar and Dhawal Kulkarni, and that's not counting Steve Smith and James Faulkner, who also happen to be multi-skilled players in limited roles here.
By playing so many at one go, quality is compromised. They need to decide which ones to persist with, when they already have Shane Watson, and get rid of the rest, for proper T20 batsmen and bowlers, which I don't find in this bits-and-pieces bunch. Dropping Abhishek Nayar for Karun Nair was a smart move. Stuart Binny can definitely be benched, as Rajat Bhatia offers much more for the same place as a full-fledged bowler. I'm not sure Kane Richardson serves much of a purpose, as Faulkner is a much more productive bowler, and can also bat. There's one of Kevon Cooper and Tim Southee to pick, and of these four, Cooper is the single best with the ball alone. They've got good domestic bowling stocks, but invested in overseas recruits for batting (Steve Smith, Hodge) so they can play three domestic frontline bowlers, one overseas bowler, Watson and Bhatia. They have options in Amit Mishra, Dhawal and Vik Malik in bowling, and Unmukt Chand in batting, so they have the resources to put together a more complete, better balanced squad, without stacking up bits-and-pieces players.
If the Indian team is stuck with Bhuvneshwar Kumar as a frontline bowler, I hope they play him at seven or eight and fit in a fifth bowler- preferably one with express pace.
By playing so many at one go, quality is compromised. They need to decide which ones to persist with, when they already have Shane Watson, and get rid of the rest, for proper T20 batsmen and bowlers, which I don't find in this bits-and-pieces bunch. Dropping Abhishek Nayar for Karun Nair was a smart move. Stuart Binny can definitely be benched, as Rajat Bhatia offers much more for the same place as a full-fledged bowler. I'm not sure Kane Richardson serves much of a purpose, as Faulkner is a much more productive bowler, and can also bat. There's one of Kevon Cooper and Tim Southee to pick, and of these four, Cooper is the single best with the ball alone. They've got good domestic bowling stocks, but invested in overseas recruits for batting (Steve Smith, Hodge) so they can play three domestic frontline bowlers, one overseas bowler, Watson and Bhatia. They have options in Amit Mishra, Dhawal and Vik Malik in bowling, and Unmukt Chand in batting, so they have the resources to put together a more complete, better balanced squad, without stacking up bits-and-pieces players.
If the Indian team is stuck with Bhuvneshwar Kumar as a frontline bowler, I hope they play him at seven or eight and fit in a fifth bowler- preferably one with express pace.
viriya
International Captain
Of course if the IPL's ambition is just to improve homegrown talent, it doesn't make sense to expand globally, but I was looking at a way for it to become even more of a global brand (say, to compete with European Premier League). I agree, it's unlikely to happen (at least in the near future), but an Asian Premier League would be much more enjoyable for a pure cricket fan (in terms of quality of cricket and global reach).
The Champions League is mostly a farce because the IPL teams are usually so much better - my suggestion would only improve the quality of the IPL.