Indian Cricket League thread

[adharcric]

Oh man, "four top Ranji sides - Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Punjab and Hyderabad - have each lost at least half a dozen players"

Considering the ICL needs 40+ additional players to start the season, if all those players come from Ranji trophy as well...the entire Ranji trophy season could be totally destroyed.

Only bad thing would be if domestic structures in other countries (with non-corrupt boards) suffered. From cricinfo, it looks like $75,000 for domestic players. International players are reputed to earn between $100,000 - $300,000 I think.

Which is not bad at all, for such a couple weeks worth of work (the tournament is not long).

Do you consider that a good thing?

 

[adharcric]

Yes it has long way to go, but it has woken up BCCI already.

http://cricket.indiatimes.com/BCCI_ups_the_ante/articleshow/2292870.cms

BCCI ups the ante


MUMBAI, August 19: Even as the number of first-class cricketers joining the Indian Cricket League (ICL) is increasing, the BCCI began making its moves in Mumbai on Sunday.

On the face of it, the Board is unconcerned about the happenings in ICL, but there is concern in the ranks. ‘‘It is also an indication of the discontent in certain state associations,’’ remarked a senior official referring to the Hyderabad example. Those putting up a brave front commented, ‘‘if they want to go, let them go. The players are responsible for any decision they take.’’

In a related development, the Board announced enhanced consolidated player emoluments for the 2006-07 season. The Board at its finance committee meeting, held on Sunday, also calculated Rs 231.64 crore as surplus for the 2006-07 season.

That meant an average first-class player would earn Rs 25,000 per match day for the season for all senior domestic tournaments, distributed as per the 10.5% stake in Board earnings. The Board’s annual general meeting (AGM) scheduled for next month meant that these earnings had to computed now. But it can still be construed as an attempt to hold back fence-sitters.

The Board pays Rs 4,000 per match day upfront in a season. The players would now additionally get Rs 21,000 per day making it a total of Rs 80,000-Rs 85,000 per first class match. So, for a player from a team like Mumbai which won both the Ranji and the one-day Premier Cup, it means a cash bonanza of nearly Rs 10-15 lakhs. Add the zonal tournaments like Deodhar and Duleep Trophies and the players are set to earn some more, but with retrospective effect. The Board projected earnings for the 2007-08 season is expected to increase further which means an average first-class player could earn Rs 35,000 per match day with the cash component increasing to Rs 10,000.

THEN & NOW

* Players have already received Rs 4000 per match day last season
* Additional Rs 21,000 per match day to be given with retrospective effect
* Total match earnings for 2006-07: Rs 80,000-Rs 85,000
* Projected earnings for 2007-08: Rs 10,000 per match day advance
* Projected match earnings for 2007-08: Rs 1 lakh-Rs 1,10,000

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I am sure that's a really bad thing for Indian cricket and cricketers ?

How do you know that the BCCI is reacting to the ICL threat? These appear to be standard BCCI practices. Good for players but not necessarily anything to do with the ICL.

 

[Sanz]

How do you know that the BCCI is reacting to the ICL threat? An objective analysis will tell you that these are standard BCCI practices. Good for players but not necessarily anything to do with the ICL. http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/story/307524.html

Yeah until yesterday, Ranji Players were being paid 4000 Rs. Per day, but today morning BCCI woke up and realized that it has made profits in last fiscal year(that ended on 31/3/2007) and needed to share it with its players. So in last 50 years(until today) BCCI could only raise player's salary to 4000 Rupees per day but in just one day they realized their profits from the last fiscal year and increased the salaries by 21000.

But lets hit Logic for six and believe that BCCI was indeed planning to increase the salaries and its just a coincidence.

 

[adharcric]

Yeah until yesterday, Ranji Players were being paid 4000 Rs. Per day, but today morning BCCI woke up and realized that it has made profits in last fiscal year(that ended on 31/3/2007) and needed to share it with its players. So in last 50 years(until today) BCCI could only raise player's salary to 4000 Rupees per day but in just one day they realized their profits from the last fiscal year and increased the salaries by 21000.

But lets hit Logic for six and believe that BCCI was indeed planning to increase the salaries and its just a coincidence.

First of all, the per-day cash component has gone to 10000, not 25000. That is certainly a substantial improvement though and I'll take back what I said about "standard practices". Would you say that Anand Vasu is bull****ting in his article then?

While this is being interpreted as a reaction to the exodus of players to the Indian Cricket League, it is merely the routine revision that the BCCI announces at the end of each financial year.

 

[Sanz]

First of all, the per-day cash component has gone to 10000, not 25000. That is certainly a substantial improvement though and I'll take back what I said about "standard practices". Would you say that Anand Vasu is bull****ting in his article then?

If it is merely a 'routine revision' to have "10.5 per cent of the board's gross receipts" spent on wages of domestic cricketers, then why did it take 55 years to raise their salaries to 4000/day and then Only One day to raise it 10000/day ?

You decide if Anand Vasu is bull****ing or merely stating the facts.

 

[silentstriker]

I am sure they were planning an increase, but a 250% one? I doubt it.

 

[adharcric]

Yeah, agreed.

 

[biased indian]

Yeah until yesterday, Ranji Players were being paid 4000 Rs. Per day, but today morning BCCI woke up and realized that it has made profits in last fiscal year(that ended on 31/3/2007) and needed to share it with its players. So in last 50 years(until today) BCCI could only raise player's salary to 4000 Rupees per day but in just one day they realized their profits from the last fiscal year and increased the salaries by 21000.

But lets hit Logic for six and believe that BCCI was indeed planning to increase the salaries and its just a coincidence.

Bcci has done the same in 2006 also...only once their net profit is annouced they do this if you want i can provide the proof for same ....

 

[adharcric]

Bcci has done the same in 2006 also...only once their net profit is annouced they do this if you want i can provide the proof for same ....

Has the BCCI ever announced such a large increase in player wages though?

 

[biased indian]

Has the BCCI ever announced such a large increase in player wages though?

Yes they did ....its purly based on the Net Profit......

http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/29/stories/2006042909661900.htm

 

[R_D]

You decide if Anand Vasu is bull****ing or merely stating the facts.

Anand Vasu.. bull****s alot.

I wonder what PCB has to say now... there stand will be interesting.
I hope they go down their usual root and back away, but you get the feeling, with BCCI being their brothers in every sense, they'll make a example out of these player but i hope not. That'll one victory for ICL.

 

[Chubby Rain]

If the boards stick by the bans, what are these players going to do for the remaining 10 months of the year?

 

[Perm]

If the boards stick by the bans, what are these players going to do for the remaining 10 months of the year?

Kapil Dev has stated that they are looking into setting up an OD and FC tournament as well.

 

[Chubby Rain]

Kapil Dev has stated that they are looking into setting up an OD and FC tournament as well.

Ah, okay. It seems odd though that they're starting off with the Twenty20 format first up. It would have made sense for them to begin with a 50 over tournament instead considering the indifference to Twenty20 in India.

 

[Perm]

Ah, okay. It seems odd though that they're starting off with the Twenty20 format first up. It would have made sense for them to begin with a 50 over tournament instead considering the indifference to Twenty20 in India.

I thought India would have massive support for any Twenty20 cricket TBH, given how superficial a lot of their fans are.

 

[Chubby Rain]

I thought India would have massive support for any Twenty20 cricket TBH, given how superficial a lot of their fans are.

Gee, I wouldn't know why. I'm just another superficial fan.

 

[Sanz]

Yes they did ....its purly based on the Net Profit......

http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/29/stories/2006042909661900.htm

Are you suggesting that a player's proposed match fee of 10000/day is based on net profit ? And it is purely a coincidence that it was announced yesterday ?

If Domestic players get 250 % raise in match fees every year then why did they get the same match fee(4000/day) for last 3 years ? What next, BCCI didn't have any profit in last 3 years ?

 

[Perm]

Gee, I wouldn't know why. I'm just another superficial fan.

I never said that, it would be an utterly stupid comment to make especially when I there are so many excellent cricket supporters that are Indian on these forums. However, a lot of the Indian population is quite superficial from what I can see.

 

[biased indian]

Are you suggesting that a player's proposed match fee of 10000/day is based on net profit ? And it is purely a coincidence that it was announced yesterday ?

If Domestic players get 250 % raise in match fees every year then why did they get the same match fee(4000/day) for last 3 years ? What next, BCCI didn't have any profit in last 3 years ?

so was it that the last 50 years they where giving 4000 Rs and since ICL came up they raised it to 10K???.any way in year 2006 also all playres was getting arround 65000 Rs per match.so i will say BCCI have done nothing unusual here seeing the ICL.

 

[Sanz]

so was it that the last 50 years they where giving 4000 Rs and since ICL came up they raised it to 10K???.any way in year 2006 also all playres was getting arround 65000 Rs per match.so i will say BCCI have done nothing unusual here seeing the ICL.

It took them 55 years to increase their salary to 4000/Day and then one day to increase to 10000/Day. So yes, It does seem that the proposed raise is because of the pressure coming from ICL. FYI - Between 2004-2007 Players were getting match fee of Rs. 4000/Day before that it was 3000/Day for a while. Dont know anything before that.


FYI #2 - Rs. 4000/Day was the actual salary, so if the players play a 4 day match, their actual salary would be Rs. 16000 Gauranteed Money. At the end of the year they get their share of profit which on paper comes to be 65000/Match. Needless to say that for the year 2006 it has not been paid yet. The amount that is paid so far is 16000/Match.


FYI #2 - In the Proposed scheme, the base salary would be Rs. 10000/match Plus a projected profit sharing of Rs. 25000/Day, that makes a total of 35000/Day and a total of 140000/Match.

If you still think that a raise of 250% in base match fee and approx. 100% increase in overall fee is nothing unsual then I have nothing much to say.