Indian Cricket Dhaba

[Daemon]

Yes, seriously. Bhuvi is pretty good in tests too. Pandya is the one who should be an ODI specialist. But they will keep drafting him in tests as a bits and pieces all-rounder.

He’s averaging 30 with bat and ball. Hardly bits and pieces?

 

[ankitj]

Just 11 games.
Just 17 wickets.
Bowls just ~8 overs per innings, ~14 overs per match.

A player who is not one of 6 best batsmen OR 4/5 best bowlers is bits and pieces.

 

[Daemon]

Meh, disagree. He provides great balance when four bowlers seems like it may not he enough.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I think he has potential to not be bits and pieces but hes not there yet.

 

[honestbharani]

Shastri said that they are looking at Bhuvi as a ODI specialist.

He also said Kuldeep was the #1 spinner.

 

[honestbharani]

I think its a simple calculation for me. If you wanna play 4 seamers and a spinner, it has to be either Ashwin + Pandya or Jadeja + Bhuvi. And if you are playing Bumrah, Shami and Ishant/Bhuvi, I honestly do not see what more Pandya can add there, especially if the opposition does not roll out a green top coz they now know we actually have a fast bowling attack. On a normal balanced wicket where the game might go into 4th and 5th days, you will need even your spinner to be a match-winner and Ashwin is not doing that bowling 35 overs out of 100 and holding an end tight in the first dig. Plus, I honestly think Jaddu is a better batsman than Pandya and when the question is to pick the #6 or #7, it's the batting ability that should be the primary concern. I honestly think this side is the best we can put out overseas, even in SENA as long as the wicket is not a ridiculous greentop like Perth or Jo'burg or some of the England wickets we saw in 2018:


Rohit/other opener
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant (wk)
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bhuvi/Ishant
Shami
Bumrah/Umesh

 

[harsh.ag]

6 batsmen needed

 

[Daemon]

Great problem to have anyways. All these options are in reality only marginally better/worse than each other. We’ve come a long way

 

[srbhkshk]

Pandya got us our only Victory in England and he really got us a fair shot against SA in the first test, I wouldn't dismiss him so quickly. He's inconsistent but has great shock value.

 

[honestbharani]

Pandya got us our only Victory in England and he really got us a fair shot against SA in the first test, I wouldn't dismiss him so quickly. He's inconsistent but has great shock value.

And shock value is a luxury we really cannot afford. Plus his fitness has been questionable for a while now. IMO, they will save him and maybe Bhuvi for the T20 WC. If Pandya is not in the squad, I think we can pretty much take it as a given that Jaddu will bat 6/7 and Ashwin will play as the main spinner unless its an absolute green top.

 

[honestbharani]

6 batsmen needed

Then again, to me, the one spinner should be your best spinner and that is Ashwin. You can always bat Vihari at 6 and Pant at 7 and Ashwin at 8.

 

[srbhkshk]

And shock value is a luxury we really cannot afford. Plus his fitness has been questionable for a while now. IMO, they will save him and maybe Bhuvi for the T20 WC. If Pandya is not in the squad, I think we can pretty much take it as a given that Jaddu will bat 6/7 and Ashwin will play as the main spinner unless its an absolute green top.

Yeah I am struggling to get him a place in the team but I do think he should be in the squad at least. If Jadeja / Ashwin **** up then he is a proper replacement from them.

Also in case of a green top.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah... I do think Pandya and a few others are good back up but on a good wicket, its a no brainer that we pick Jaddu above him as the allrounder right now.

 

[ankitj]

Meh, disagree. He provides great balance when four bowlers seems like it may not he enough.

I never believed in "balance" in tests. In limited overs, 5 different bowlers need to bowl their quota so there is a place for someone like Pandya.

 

[CricAddict]

I think its a simple calculation for me. If you wanna play 4 seamers and a spinner, it has to be either Ashwin + Pandya or Jadeja + Bhuvi. And if you are playing Bumrah, Shami and Ishant/Bhuvi, I honestly do not see what more Pandya can add there, especially if the opposition does not roll out a green top coz they now know we actually have a fast bowling attack. On a normal balanced wicket where the game might go into 4th and 5th days, you will need even your spinner to be a match-winner and Ashwin is not doing that bowling 35 overs out of 100 and holding an end tight in the first dig. Plus, I honestly think Jaddu is a better batsman than Pandya and when the question is to pick the #6 or #7, it's the batting ability that should be the primary concern. I honestly think this side is the best we can put out overseas, even in SENA as long as the wicket is not a ridiculous greentop like Perth or Jo'burg or some of the England wickets we saw in 2018:


Rohit/other opener
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant (wk)
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bhuvi/Ishant
Shami
Bumrah/Umesh

I don't think Kohli will ever field Ashwin and Jadeja together overseas, especially now that we have a good pace attack. Last few series, they have been pretty consistent in the team selection. 6 batsmen and 4 bowlers overseas with Vihari/any other chipping in while 2 spinners+3 pacers combination is played in India. It has worked so far.

 

[honestbharani]

There is a reason why Jadeja is batting at 6 though. He will want to keep this going. I think the only way they don't play Ashwin is if they play 4 proper seamers, which might well happen given he has a Jadeja and Umesh boner, but as long as the wicket is not a lawn, I feel we will play Jadeja as the allrounder and Ashwin as the specialist spinner.

 

[duffer]

Devdutt Padikkal is another cracking talent coming out of Karnataka. Great pickup by RCB, deserves some burn in the IPL imo.

 

[harsh.ag]

2019 Stats

 

[Noumenon]

3 games after Shaw's redemptive return, the boy already made a strong case for his immediate induction to the T20 side at least. Vastly superior option when contrasted with the current Dhawan.

 

[Shri]

but icc dhawan always turns up