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harsh.ag

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Indian players should earn 3-5 times more than players from other boards at least as their is the richest board. They don't.
Only looking at the demand side. Not at the supply side.

Does that really matter? If you play for 5 years in the national team you are comfortable for the rest of your life.
It matters in the sense that if anyone feels Pujara is being given a raw deal by the BCCI right now when compared to IPL players, he will also be presented a post cricketing career by the same organization. For most of the IPL players, that is not an option. And life can get very tricky for players after retiring. It's a valuable thing imo.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
£500k (+ a bit more for a currently weak pound), says google.

It's a good wage but not spectacular for a sportsman touring full time imo, you could earn about the same playing volleyball
Yeah but then bear in mind he gets to spend that £500k in India; Pujara's half a million a year will go a lot further than an English or Australian equivalent.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
The issue isn't really what he can afford and how further he can go with it. People don't really assess their reward/salary based on what they can afford but by what they feel they are worth. And that is to a large extent, based on what your peers in your job/industry make.

Pujara will be well justified in thinking that he puts in a lot more effort into a Test season over a year than a IPL star does in a 2 month tournament.
 

indiaholic

International Captain
Yeah but then bear in mind he gets to spend that £500k in India; Pujara's half a million a year will go a lot further than an English or Australian equivalent.
Yeah as I said, it is the equivalent of earning about $2.5 mn in the US.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
The disparity is ridiculous and that is why I said it was heartening to see so many players put the Test matches up on the priority scale and decided to take their injury time offs during the IPL.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah I wasn't aware the disparity was this huge. I remember reading Indian cricketers negotiating a new pay deal recently which increased the salary for Test cricketers but wasn't aware the disparity was still so huge.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
India players reportedly 'intimidated' by coach Anil Kumble | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

India's campaign for Champions Trophy has begun under a cloud of discontent within the dressing room with the captain, and possibly a few other senior players, expressing a lack of confidence in their head coach.

Speculation had been rife ever since the BCCI chose not to automatically extend the tenure of Anil Kumble as the head coach, choosing instead to advertise the position, and it has now emerged that the decision was made following feedback from Virat Kohli about Kumble's coaching method, which he is said to have described as "intimidating".

Kumble's year-long contract expires at the end of the Champions Trophy. The development comes at less than an ideal time for India, with their first match in the Champions Trophy, against arch rivals Pakistan, just days away.

It is understood that Kohli relayed the sense of discontent to the BCCI's top office bearers as well as the Committee of Administrators (CoA) before the team left for England. He is also understood to have spoken to Sourav Ganguly, who is part of the cricket advisory panel which has been tasked with deciding the coaching option.

The players' concerns are thought to centre mainly around Kumble's man-management skills. In the words of one official familiar with the details, Kumble has been conducting himself like a "headmaster" at a school. Such an approach, the official said, "had not gone down well" with the players who are used to a more relaxed dressing room. Some players - not the bigger personalities like Kohli or MS Dhoni - have felt "a bit intimidated" by Kumble's approach.

Such has been the approach, the official said, that some of the injuries that have ruled players out during Kumble's tenure were not strictly cricket related. "Kumble was pushing hard. The bulk of them [injuries] are non-cricketing injuries. One of the players was stressed out. So the team is not a happy lot."

What has surprised the BCCI is that Kumble has failed to read these concerns. The official said that the reason Kumble has been successful was because "the team has been successful" playing cricket mostly at home. "The way the cricket set-up works in India is the coach is not the king. So the coach has to understand that."

Based on the player feedback, the BCCI decided that the time to "change" had come and the "best" way to move forward was to put in place an advertisement inviting fresh applications. The official admitted that the timing was not ideal - the advertisement went out on the day Indian squad arrived in London to defend the Champions Trophy, and applications for the job close on the eve of the tournament opener - but he said the process had to followed.

The most telling public comments came from Kohli, who said last week he did not find anything untoward with what the BCCI was doing. "The process has been followed every single time the similar way in Indian cricket for the past so many years is what I know," Kohli said at his first media briefing upon landing in England. "Even the last time the post was up for a change the same procedure was applied. With the term being one year, the procedure is being followed in the same manner. I don't see anything very different from what has happened in the past. That is something the board has recognised. They want to follow the same pattern."

Kohli was equivocal in his response to the success India have had under Kumble. "When you have results come your way, the contribution is from every part of the team," he said. "It is not from a single source to say the least. Everyone works hard equally if not more than the other person."

Kumble has not yet spoken publicly about the situation. He is, however, bound to be disappointed considering India have only lost one series in any format under his charge: the two-match Twenty20 series in Florida against West Indies last August. Kumble has also been front and centre in talks with the BCCI over enhancing the contracts not just of the national team's players but also domestic players and Indian coaching staff.

The situation also puts three other Indian legends in an awkward position. It was only last June that Kumble was nominated by the three-man cricket advisory panel comprising his contemporaries, Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly and VVS Laxman; Kumble wasn't in the original shortlist of candidates the BCCI had finalised because he had no formal coaching experience. But it was at the panel's insistence that he was put in. And now they have to go through the process again; it isn't yet known if Kumble will go through the process again. Ganguly is currently in England, doing television commentary for the official broadcaster of the Champions Trophy.

At the time of Kumble's appointment, the BCCI made out the contract for only a year saying that would give Kumble time to prove his coaching credentials. The former BCCI president Anurag Thakur had said that a review would be carried out after one year. Incidentally, Ajay Shirke, who was the BCCI secretary last June, had said that when the review was done, Kumble should find himself in the "driver's seat" considering India were playing a long home season comprising 13 Tests and a couple of ODI series. Kumble might not be holding the steering wheel anymore.
 

cnerd123

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Man for the massive cricket geeks that we are, there is so much fascinating **** happening that we aren't even close to being privvy too.

Never thought I'd hear Kumble being described as 'intimidating', but the headmaster analogy seems to fit very well
 

OverratedSanity

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the decision was made following feedback from Virat Kohli about Kumble's coaching method, which he is said to have described as "intimidating".
Some players - not the bigger personalities like Kohli or MS Dhoni - have felt "a bit intimidated" by Kumble's approach.
Eh? Seems to contradict itself within a few lines. Weird article tstl.

The timing is weird though. Why send out an advert just before the CT?
 

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Eh? Seems to contradict itself within a few lines. Weird article tstl.
Think it means that Kohli was speaking on behalf of his squad.

Such has been the approach, the official said, that some of the injuries that have ruled players out during Kumble's tenure were not strictly cricket related. "Kumble was pushing hard. The bulk of them [injuries] are non-cricketing injuries. One of the players was stressed out. So the team is not a happy lot."
If true, this is ridiculous and must stop.

Although if Kumble's approach has led to the fast bowlers becoming what they are now, he would have at least done some good in his short tenure. Of course, it might be that he didn't have much of a hand in that.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
The real issue is that cricket committee or whatever the heck they are called will have massive eggs on their faces now. Upto now they have been required to do only 1 job for the plum amount they get just to sit on their asses. And they managed to screw that up. :laugh:

The rumor last year was that they wanted to get Shastri out of the gig and asked Kumble to apply as he will be a difficult guy to object to for anyone. And now we have this. :(
 

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The real issue is that cricket committee or whatever the heck they are called will have massive eggs on their faces now. Upto now they have been required to do only 1 job for the plum amount they get just to sit on their asses. And they managed to screw that up. :laugh:

The rumor last year was that they wanted to get Shastri out of the gig and asked Kumble to apply as he will be a difficult guy to object to for anyone. And now we have this. :(
Well I'm glad that it was brought up at least. Maybe if he works on his temperament he can stay.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
Eh? Seems to contradict itself within a few lines. Weird article tstl.

Kohli: "Hey BCCI, based on the feedback I am getting, I have to say a lot of our boys feel intimidated by the coach."

BCCI: "Do you feel intimidated?"

Kohli: "What? Of course not. How can you even suggest such a ridiculous thing. Kohli ko intimidate karna, mushkil hi nahin, na mumkin hain"
 
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