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India cancel Bangaldesh series
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Lions81
U19 Cricketer
Well it's one 1-day tournaments, as the ICC Champions Trophy and Natwest Series were already etched into the schedule.marc71178 said:
The tournament in question, to be held in Holland, is to be contested between Pakistan, Australia and India.
Surely the ICC has played some part. They want to spread cricket in Associate nations, and Holland, having played in the 2003 World Cup, is one of the most advanced cricketing-wise. So a ODI tourney between three of the most popular and exciting sides in world cricket would do nothing but showcase the best of world cricket, some of the best stars, and spread the love of cricket to the Dutch. This tournament is in the best interests of cricket.
As opposed to an Indian tour of Bangladesh, which would, not to be arrogant, be one-sided and depress the hopes of Bangladeshi cricket fans. How many more losses can they tolerate? The U-19 World Cup has given them hope, a crushing tour by neighbor and rival India would do nothing to boost them further.
But really, India wasn't thinking, "Hey, let's not gang up on Bangladesh." but were thinking in cash. So what? How is that disrespectful? They could have sent a sub-standard team to Bangladesh. That would have been disrespectful. Instead, the BCCI has stated that they will tour Bangladesh in 2005 with a full-strength squad. I'm sure Bangladesh will infinitely prefer a full-strength Indian team in 2005 rather than an 'A' side in 2004.
But then the argument will likely turn to, well why can't India cancel the Holland tournament and just tour Bangladesh? If they don't want to burn out their cricketers, why cancel cricket and just add more?
Well the Bangladesh tour is 2 Tests and 3 ODIs. The Holland tourney will probably result in India playing at most 5 ODIs. (Assuming the format is for each side to play another twice, and if India were to make it to the finals.) 4 or 5 ODIs in a country next to England, where they have to then travel to participate in the ICC Champions Trophy and Natwest Series, is much lighter than 2 Tests and 3 ODIs in a hot country far away from their next destination. And plus, India are looking to warm-up for the crucial Champions Trophy, and playing Bangladesh in 2 Tests won't do that.
India are not guilty of being disrespectful to Bangladesh, merely more concerned with their own self-interests, just like every other cricketing nation in the world. If you want to see disrespect in action, take a look at England's treatment of Zimbabwe. Even Australia are touring, what makes England so special?
Craig
World Traveller
This a disresctful to Bangladesh. No way on earth should India be allowed to get away with this.
I think the ICC should take some of the blame - they organise tournaments like the ICC Champions Trophey and the ODIs in Dutch land are a waste of time as well.
How many actual Dutchies will be following or even caring about it since the European cycling season coming to an end (cycling is huge over there) plus football and Olympics?
Countries should not have the right to pick and chose tours no matter who you are. Nobody is above the law.
The BCCI should fined :!( :!(
I think the ICC should take some of the blame - they organise tournaments like the ICC Champions Trophey and the ODIs in Dutch land are a waste of time as well.
How many actual Dutchies will be following or even caring about it since the European cycling season coming to an end (cycling is huge over there) plus football and Olympics?
Countries should not have the right to pick and chose tours no matter who you are. Nobody is above the law.
The BCCI should fined :!( :!(
Lions81
U19 Cricketer
How can you say countries should not have the right to pick and choose their tours? That's one of the most insane things I think I've heard! Who else will decide then? This was not an ICC Ten Year Plan tour. The ICC's job is not to play matchmaker. The boards decide who to play, when to play and how often to play. the ICC did not order India to go to Bangladesh, they initially thought they could could fit a trip in, then decided against it. So on what basis would the ICC fine the BCCI? C'mon friend, let's be reasonable!Craig said:
Linda
International Vice-Captain
Very true. Just I wish they'd try to make some money here instead :P I'd love a Ind/Pak/Aus tri series!Craig said:
Seriously though, I'm starting to get sick of teams cancelling tours and matches and what have you. If the 10 year plan was planned and STUCK to, then we wouldnt have the problem really. Cant they work out a schedule thats fair for everyone?
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
It is very disrespectful to Bangladesh. This is the reason why I dont like Jagmohan Dalmiya, He will even send our team to mars if it meant more money for him and BCCI. The Guy has no respect for ICC and other cricketing boards and above all Players. He created a mess during the world cup and ICC trophy before that.
This is the only reason I wasn't happy when Indian Govt lifted the ban from playing Pakistan, I knew that this guy will organize stupid & meaningless ODI tournaments in TIMBUKTU and make the Indian players play. Doing it at the expense of other TEST tours is even worse.
This is the only reason I wasn't happy when Indian Govt lifted the ban from playing Pakistan, I knew that this guy will organize stupid & meaningless ODI tournaments in TIMBUKTU and make the Indian players play. Doing it at the expense of other TEST tours is even worse.
Lions81
U19 Cricketer
Yes, the ICC ten-year plan is the only instance of when the ICC dictates touring terms, and as I stated in my earlier post, India touring Bangladesh is NOT part of the plan. This is plain as day on the ICC website. In other words, this tour has absolutely nothing to do with the ICC ten year plan. According to it, India are not supposed to tour Bangladesh. So India are not pulling out of a mandatory tour, only a tour which they thought they might be able to pull off and then realized that they would not.Craig said:
That being side, I again ask, so what if money is the concern of the BCCI? Does Cricket Australia demand India play 4 test matches instead of the 3 that they played in India because they enjoy Indian cricketers so much that they want more of their company, or are they interested in the extra revenues from another test match? Did the ECB invite Zimbabwe to tour them because they wanted the Zimbabwe cricketers to see what democracy is like and hopefully bring it back to Zimbabwe?, or did they desperately need money?
Let's not be naive about the state of the game. When you don't try to make money, the game falls apart. Look at the West Indies. They have no money, and that is the primary reason they are in the situation they are.
Lions81
U19 Cricketer
I'd much rather see ODIs between India and Pakistan and Australia then any tests between India and Bangladesh? How can you say otherwise? The ODIs would be competitive (ok fair enough if you claim India can't beat Australia which is true) but the Tests would be one-sided affair which would benefit no one at all.Sanz said:
biased indian
International Coach
Natwest serie only three matches that will be a total of say 10 days commitmentmarc71178 said:
but a tour of 2 test matches and 3 odis will take atleat 25 days
biased indian
International Coach
its a tri series and BCCI PCB and ACB are at foul. when all of them know about the icc's ten year plan and that india was scheduled to play bangladesh. why would they support such a series because they also want the moneySanz said: