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Ind/Pak pre millennium vs post millenium
- Thread starter subshakerz
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subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yes like Hayden he will simply count down the deliveries most of the time to play him out. However if Shoaib is in one of those wonder spells.it doesn't matter who is in front of him.
vidiq
State Regular
If performs against India in India , rabada's number in Asia will be legandery.
Rabada should Be place ahead of Waqar.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Imran, Wasim and Waqar are all reverse champs on such pitches.
Thala_0710
International Vice-Captain
Why?
vidiq
State Regular
Because he is simply better.
In away condition against top 5 teams
Waqar -31+ AVG with terrible Sr.
Rabada -28 AVG with awesome sr.
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
Active player ratings are always changing until their retire
Bumrah, Cummins, and Rabada should all move up by the end of their careers
Bumrah, Cummins, and Rabada should all move up by the end of their careers
Thala_0710
International Vice-Captain
Not so much at the top, but more in the middle of the pack
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Rabada has far easier home conditions and is a flop in SC. Seems much more a fairweather bowler.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Withhold judgement on Rabada, he has a huge series in India coming down, he could pull a Hadlee and fix his Asia stats
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
A poor series and he would be in same tier as Jimmy
One ATG series and his legacy would vastly improve
One ATG series and his legacy would vastly improve
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Jimmy doesn't have a problem in Asia at all, better than Cummins there, infact.
Thala_0710
International Vice-Captain
I don't think there's much of a gap between Rabada and Waqar tbh. Waqar slightly beats Rabada (1.13 vs 1.17) on match factor, has a better record in Asia and had the better peak. Rabada is better against the top teams and the match factor is probably a bit affected the **** batting lineups he has played with recently. Waqar has the longevity and will go with him for now, but Rabada could change that soon.
Granted it was against Bangladesh, but just watching him bowl was a delight in the recent series. Looked absolutely unplayable. He is a much much improved bowler on Asian tracks.
vidiq
State Regular
How do you know about match factors of all cricketers? Where can i get the match factor stats?
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That would change things of course.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
SA especially the past 6 years seems just ridiculously easy for a pacer to get worldclass figures. It's almost like you just need to show up and you get a sub 25 average.
Thala_0710
International Vice-Captain
You can calculate by going on statsguru. Only issue is you have to do it manually for each player (search your player X in "match involving players" field, set "group figures by" to overall aggregate and tick the pace bowler/spin bowler tickbox accordingly and then you get the overall average by all pacers in the matches played by X. After that you just divide that avg by the player X's average.
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Thala_0710
International Vice-Captain
Yeah but he hasnt been as bad as advertised away from home. And even at home, he's still been better than the rest and a consistent match winner, even with the bowling friendly conditions.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Why not Farokh
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sure it's close between him and Waqar. Rabada in Australia is a big plus.