The problem with that example is, Vettori did not start off as an allrounder...he was a bowler who developed his batting. He was not an allrounder before...as opposed to Kallis who started off as an allrounder and now is just a batsman who can bowl. So Vettori has actually improved in terms of being an allrounder whereas Kallis has gone backwards in terms of being an allrounder.
Possibly, but the rest of the world were giggling at the hype before the WC when it was all about Tendulkar getting his 100th ton in the final etc.. now they are joining in with it all.
ha ha.. i lost them long ago, mate.
Yea, it was definitely the WC where the countdown really began.
The same muppet, four years earlier tbh.
kinda agree with you SS. but consider the no of five-fers murali has taken in international cricket. there was no such hoopla when he completed his 75th haul. he finished with 77. the next man on the list is richard hadlee at 41. isnt that an equally, if not more, worthy achievement as sachin's record of 99 hundreds?
I just reckon you can't ignore the sheer weight of numbers when it comes to Kallis v Sobers if you're going to rate a Test 100 v Bang over an ODI 100 v Aus.
Murali's achievement is equally fantastic, IMO. Undoubtedly his achievement wasn't praised to the heavens dwu to his nationality, but that isn't reason to not rate any such achievement by any other player, IMO.
I never ignore the weight of numbers. i prefer a more exciting, stylish cricketer to a methodical accumulator. thats all. and to be fair, kallis' records is not bolstered by minnow bashing. he is more successful against the big teams than even tendulkar and lara. yes, he has a problem with english conditions and had never scored a hundred against SL till yesterday. also he was batting like a cadaver until three years ago. now all that has changed. still, he is no sobers yet; and he puts me to sleep. but i certainly respect the numbers he has piled up. in fact, his achievement of 20000+ runs with 50+ centuries and 500+ wickets in international cricket is simply staggering. it is probably the most super human achievement cricket has seen in all its history. 99 hundreds sounds not so big next to this.
But it's obvious that people like big even numbers...10, 50, 100, etc. Scoring a 99 isn't much different to 101 yet we aren't counting how many scores above 90+.
I'm happy to handle the parents..as long as I get the girl in the end
Sorry to be pedantic..his record against Australia is good, not great.
i meant that against all non-minnow teams put together kallis has the better record.
I can start why Kallis is so criminally under overrated thread in response.
Bit uncalled for mate. Didn't have a go at you at all, just disagreed with your point.
I wish you would, then I might begin to understand some of your rationale other than simply, "I think the others are better"I can start why Kallis is so criminally under overrated thread in response.
