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ICC To Get Tough On Racists
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Langeveldt
Soutie
Good
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
As long as they get tough on cheats first, rather than spouting Blairesque PR...
BhupinderSingh
Banned
They should also take action against racist umpires/referrees like Darrel Hair,Chris Broad etc.
PS.From now on,be on my ignore list forever ,Mr.SP
Yes,they really need to get tough on cheats like Brett Lee,Kyle Mills,Andrew Hall,Ian Bell & Andrew Flintoff etc.Scaly piscine said:
PS.From now on,be on my ignore list forever ,Mr.SP
BhupinderSingh
Banned
??????Voltman said:
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Hmm an obvious idiot putting me on ignore, that'll keep me awake at night.BhupinderSingh said:
Proven cheats in the past have gotten away with it very lightly, recently we have the likes of Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akhtar, Shahid Afridi being caught. Considering Surrey had points docked and were effectively penalised the best part of a win - an odd match ban for the individual concerned is nothing. This especially applies if a cheat manages to turn a draw/loss into a win for their team, they've actually benefited from cheating even after they've been caught - which should never happen.
Langeveldt
Soutie
What did Andrew Hall, Ian Bell and Andrew Flintoff do?
Dasa
International Vice-Captain
The issue of 'cheats' is irrelevant to this issue...this is dealing primarily with cricket crowds, not players.Scaly piscine said:
Anyway, it's a good move although I can see problems in enforcing these new recommendations. It'd be upto the staff at any particular ground to do that, and I have my doubts that they would be, or even want to be, effective...
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Personally I don't particularly believe in breaking abuse down to racist insults and everything else in cricket grounds, if someone made remarks about someone's mother dying or whatever they should be dealt with just as sternly - plus people could just as well having racist motives but not use racist insults, so how is that dealt with? Similarly people could call Gillespie a gyppo or whatever to annoy him while he's averaging 100 with the ball, but they could be banned for life because it has racial connotations. Regardless this is a fringe, behind-the-scenes issue for the ICC because they're supposed to be delegating the responsibility for dealing with racism to grounds, this is something that should be dealt with between the ICC and the grounds not between ICC and the media and then the grounds and this is why I don't believe it's anything more than Blairesque PR. Maybe they're trying to build some good PR up before the ball tampering - who knows.
For the ICC I still believe the cheating issue should be far more important as they are the one and pretty much only one that deals with the cheats and not sorting it out properly can have severe ramifications for years to come - look at how football has changed because it is so soft on diving.
For the ICC I still believe the cheating issue should be far more important as they are the one and pretty much only one that deals with the cheats and not sorting it out properly can have severe ramifications for years to come - look at how football has changed because it is so soft on diving.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Not to go off topic, but for football...I always thought you should be forced to leave the field for 3 minutes if you pretend you are hurt. If you're actually hurt, then you will go off for that time anyway. If you aren't...well thats your punishment.
Neil Pickup
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Err... Flintoff chucks, Bell took that debatable caught-and-bowled in Pakistan last November, and Hall, god knows. Obviously no mention of Rashid "I didn't drop it" Latif, but hey, can't let race get in the way of things.
Can we please try and keep this constructive?
Can we please try and keep this constructive?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I always thought it was McGrath who chucked? Him and his dodgy bowling action?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
They shouldn't be dealt with at all. Thoughtcrime is not actually a crimeScaly piscine said:
. Its irrelevent what they think, as long as they don't act on those thoughts.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
This is actually a very fair point.Scaly piscine said:
A lot of the anti-racism stuff is primarily desgined to garner goodwill and is good PR. It is impossible to actually quanitify success.
It happened with the 'Football Task Force' in English football. Rather than address issues at the heart of the game (illegal payments, corruption etc) it invested most of its time in the "Let's kick racism out of football' campaign. This was a smokescreen to hide inactivity in other areas.
Now the aim of the campaign is honourable, however the reason for its priority is that it was a high profile topic that would deflect attention away from core problems and was area that success could not be quantified.
A good ad campaign and lots of speaches about an issue that most reasonable people agree with and suddenly an organisation that is not addressing more pressing concerns is actually popular and seen to be making a difference.
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