Ian Healy's Ashes predictions

[luckyeddie]

I am just suprised Healy's prediction has received such outrageous reaction. I think with the way Australia have played test cricket in the last 12 months or so, Healy has ever right to make that prediction.

Sorry - I just thought that he was picking up the mantle of Dennis Lillee, Thommo, Hooksey and all the others who had made other 'realistic' predictions on the outcome of various events. Sometimes it's difficult to tell.

 

[tooextracool]

I can't believe what I've just seen in a Sunday newspaper....Ian Healy is predicting that Australia will win The Ashes 5 - 0, he's either been misquoted or he's forgotten what the weather is like over here!

thommo and now healy, the usual pre series banter.

 

[age_master]

will that make i tthe usual walk over

 

[Scallywag]

Well lets just look at some predictions before Australia played NZ.
They are all from the NZ v Australia thread.

In ODI's, I dare say 3-2 to New Zealand. Although, that his hoping that all or bowlers' backs don't suddenly start imploding, as this seems to be a growing trend.
We havn't been beaten at home for four years, now it's your turn Aus.

If we play our best you wont beat us. I guess that sounds ****y but i don't care, it's the truth

In the tests yes ,but not the odi's we are just as good as australia and we havent been beaten at home in a number of years in one day cricket

Actually, in the past 12 months we have actually been better than the Aussies.

In ODIs, we can certainly match the Aussies, as shown by the recent 1-1 series draw

No your right NZ are probably a better a One day team.

australia to get out of jail, win 3-2 after being 2-1 down

NZ to win the ODI series 3-2...I reckon Australia are very beatable in that form of the game at the moment

I'd concede that Australia are marginally stronger than NZ in One day cricket (but not by much).

NO nz are the closest to Australia in odi cricket,i belive nz are on par with australia

So I dont think anything Healy has said is different to what any cricket supporter predicts its just his prediction is a bit more sensible.

 

[tooextracool]

I'm kidding a bit about Ponting's captaincy - his ODI record pretty well speaks for itself but I reckon I could captain the 2003 vintage Aussie ODI side (biggest problem would be where to hide myself in the field, of course) and in tests he's really not had much of an examination.

if ponting could captain that side with that kind of record in ODIs, what does that say about waugh, who remember in his last ODI series managed to successfully knock his team out of their own series?

Warne is the deciding factor, IMO. If he's off form and England don't have to bat last too often, then it could be extremely close.

true, the best way to play warne though is to play him agressively very early on and not let him settle. problem is that you have to actually be good to play him aggresively. whether the england batsmen are actually good enough against spin to be able to do that though is a different story.

 

[tooextracool]

will that make i tthe usual walk over

well if we have a half fit side that drop gilchrist 5 times in an inning like we've had for the last 2 ashes then yes.

 

[tooextracool]

Well lets just look at some predictions before Australia played NZ.
They are all from the NZ v Australia thread.

In ODI's, I dare say 3-2 to New Zealand. Although, that his hoping that all or bowlers' backs don't suddenly start imploding, as this seems to be a growing trend.
We havn't been beaten at home for four years, now it's your turn Aus.

If we play our best you wont beat us. I guess that sounds ****y but i don't care, it's the truth

In the tests yes ,but not the odi's we are just as good as australia and we havent been beaten at home in a number of years in one day cricket

Actually, in the past 12 months we have actually been better than the Aussies.

In ODIs, we can certainly match the Aussies, as shown by the recent 1-1 series draw

No your right NZ are probably a better a One day team.

australia to get out of jail, win 3-2 after being 2-1 down

NZ to win the ODI series 3-2...I reckon Australia are very beatable in that form of the game at the moment

I'd concede that Australia are marginally stronger than NZ in One day cricket (but not by much).

NO nz are the closest to Australia in odi cricket,i belive nz are on par with australia

So I dont think anything Healy has said is different to what any cricket supporter predicts its just his prediction is a bit more sensible.

to be fair, that NZ side wasnt the full strength side. yet though they beat SL.
which only goes to show how poor SL is away from home.

 

[Dasa]

Well lets just look at some predictions before Australia played NZ.
They are all from the NZ v Australia thread.

In ODI's, I dare say 3-2 to New Zealand. Although, that his hoping that all or bowlers' backs don't suddenly start imploding, as this seems to be a growing trend.
We havn't been beaten at home for four years, now it's your turn Aus.

If we play our best you wont beat us. I guess that sounds ****y but i don't care, it's the truth

In the tests yes ,but not the odi's we are just as good as australia and we havent been beaten at home in a number of years in one day cricket

Actually, in the past 12 months we have actually been better than the Aussies.

In ODIs, we can certainly match the Aussies, as shown by the recent 1-1 series draw

No your right NZ are probably a better a One day team.

australia to get out of jail, win 3-2 after being 2-1 down

NZ to win the ODI series 3-2...I reckon Australia are very beatable in that form of the game at the moment

I'd concede that Australia are marginally stronger than NZ in One day cricket (but not by much).

NO nz are the closest to Australia in odi cricket,i belive nz are on par with australia

So I dont think anything Healy has said is different to what any cricket supporter predicts its just his prediction is a bit more sensible.

Those are just comments from cricket enthusiasts... they hold no weight. Healy is meant to be a professional.

 

[Scallywag]

Those are just comments from cricket enthusiasts... they hold no weight. Healy is meant to be a professional.

What are you saying Dasa, are you saying Healy is not a professional because he thinks Australia will win all 5 tests.

 

[Dasa]

What are you saying Dasa, are you saying Healy is not a professional because he thinks Australia will win all 5 tests.

No I'm saying (if he did indeed say Australia would win 5-0, which might've been the interpretation of a journalist) it is not quite what is expected of a professional to make foolish or outlandish statements.

 

[Scallywag]

No I'm saying (if he did indeed say Australia would win 5-0, which might've been the interpretation of a journalist) it is not quite what is expected of a professional to make foolish or outlandish statements.

No foolish and outlandish would be if he said England will win 5-0 but to say Australia will win 5-0 is not because they are capable and just may do that.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

No I'm saying (if he did indeed say Australia would win 5-0, which might've been the interpretation of a journalist) it is not quite what is expected of a professional to make foolish or outlandish statements.

He said that he "couldn't see England winning a test". Can you? I can maybe, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they didn't, and it's a hell of a long way from being "foolish and outlandish", and neither would be an outright 5-0 prediction.

 

[Dasa]

He said that he "couldn't see England winning a test". Can you? I can maybe, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they didn't, and it's a hell of a long way from being "foolish and outlandish", and neither would be an outright 5-0 prediction.

That's why I said "if he did indeed say Australia would win 5-0, which might've been the interpretation of a journalist". "Couldn't see England winning a Test" seems much more reasonable... I think it'd be foolish to say Australia WILL win 5-0.

 

[The Daddy]

No foolish and outlandish would be if he said England will win 5-0 but to say Australia will win 5-0 is not because they are capable and just may do that.

Do you fancy having a bet with me on that, there is no way that Australia are going to win 5 - 0.

 

[Zinzan]

Do you fancy having a bet with me on that, there is no way that Australia are going to win 5 - 0.

I'd have a look depending on the odds....the only thing that really puts me off that bet is the good old fashion English weather

 

[mavric41]

After a quick recop over this thread i found it hard to find any sort of backing from the english.
So i will step up.

If Trescothick plays anything like he said he would or similar to what he did in the champions trophy, if Strauss plays anything like he has been playing, if Thopre plays like has been, If Harmison comes back to form, If Hoggard bowls like he did last season, If Jones bowls like he did today, If Flintoff is 100% fit, If Vaughan plays half as good as he did in the last ashes tour f the champions trophy match, If Gilo turns up and by god if Pietersen is in the team.
Trouble.
If England get walked over, and i mean 5-0, 4-0, 4-1, or even 3-1 i will eat anything on request.

If sh*t was gold I'd be a rich man. There be a mighty lot of ifs above.

Lets face it. Man to man, mind, body and soul England just don't match up.

 

[Son Of Coco]

That's why I said "if he did indeed say Australia would win 5-0, which might've been the interpretation of a journalist". "Couldn't see England winning a Test" seems much more reasonable... I think it'd be foolish to say Australia WILL win 5-0.

"Couldn't see England winning a test" is exactly what he did say. Nowhere in the article I read did he mention '5-0' and 'Australia beating England' in the same sentence.

 

[psxpro]

Thrres nothing wrong with what healy said. Dasa do you think a "proffessional" should not express what they feel?
I don't think it will be 5-0 but if healy thinks so then so what.
I just cant understand why people rip people's words to bits if they are famous or are commentators etc.
Its ONLY THEIR OPINION.
I think healy saying it will 5-0 shows me how proffessional he is. He is willing to risk it and if australia lose or only just win he will be looking stupid.
but to me thats what a proffessional is, someone who is willing to say what they think and not be conservative all the time.

 

[Dasa]

Thrres nothing wrong with what healy said. Dasa do you think a "proffessional" should not express what they feel?

No.. a professional would be expected to have an educated opinion... anyway, it's come out that Healy didn't actually say "Australia will win 5-0"... those are just the words of a journalist.