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Spark

Spark

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thierry henry said:
Why do you say this, btw? I would've said that ODI cricket went full nonsense by way of the England side of 2015-2019, who were themselves modelled on the NZ side of 2015 (so basically.....BazBall). That England side really ramped up the emphasis on white ball specialists absolutely slogging it on flat decks with very little "good old-fashioned cricket" to be seen. The 2015 Australia WC side I just recall as being a typically good Australia team.
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They did that because the 2015 WC had shown that 400+ was no longer an outlandish one-off but rather 300-400 was the norm, and high 300s could be achieved with regularity. It wasn't just McCullum playing that way, Aus and SA had also put on some huge scores in that tournament.

EDIT: In fact you could make an argument that this series represented a real turning point in hindsight; it's pretty funny to see the headline article in that link being "yes this was a massive runfest but nothing to see here, the bat and ball balance hasn't changed, ODI cricket will be fine"
 
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Spark said:
They did that because the 2015 WC had shown that 400+ was no longer an outlandish one-off but rather 300-400 was the norm, and high 300s could be achieved with regularity. It wasn't just McCullum playing that way, Aus and SA had also put on some huge scores in that tournament.
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Yeah Maxwell that tournament went absolutely mental too. Averaged 65 at a 180+ SR.

Rubel Hossain was arguably the catalyst for England's dramatic turnaround. Shamed them into revamping their entire thinking around LOs.
 
Immenso

Immenso

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Interesting. For me, also, that is not how I remember the 2015 world cup.

Probaky coloured by my NZ perspective? Rather than matches involving the other nations. Or maybe matches in NZ where ball swung. Or are you guys remembering it wrong?

For me, it was positive, with attacking bowling and field placements (by Baz). Seemed we went all out to ensure opposition were not set with wickets in hand at the 35 over mark. (When batting teams then combined batting power play plus last 10 fielding restrictions.) Seemed to be balance.

I agree ODIs have been awful since, though. Thought 2015 was that last good hurrah.
 
K

Kirkut

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We can admit that the game has advanced a lot both in terms of fitness and skills.

Batsmen have become good enough to hit good balls for clean sixes, the recent bazball phenomena comes to mind. Imagine Root reverse sweeping McGrath in the 90s would piss off purists.

Fast bowlers have gained fitness to an extent that they can maintain the same intensity in every spell throughout the day, while bowlers going through motions were common back then.

In short, things that were rare before have become common now due to the reasons above. So we tend to appreciate them less.
 
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