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How Many Centuries Will Phil Hughes Score?
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four_or_six
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Hayden still "heavy hearted" over Hughes dropping.
Haydos has been quite amusing on all this, you'd think Hughes had been replaced by Chris Martin. I think he's horrified a 'proper opener' isn't playing.
Haydos has been quite amusing on all this, you'd think Hughes had been replaced by Chris Martin. I think he's horrified a 'proper opener' isn't playing.
pup11
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Nah... Hayden is just disappointed that Hughesy got dropped this early, and though Watto is doing fine as opener, but still everyone just felt that the Australian think-tank were too harsh on Hughes, and just wanted Hughes out of the side, irrespective of whom they replaced him with.Hayden still "heavy hearted" over Hughes dropping.
Haydos has been quite amusing on all this, you'd think Hughes had been replaced by Chris Martin. I think he's horrified a 'proper opener' isn't playing.
I think Hayden also might be having a sense of deja vu in Hughes' case, because like Hughes, Hayden too was dropped very early in his career, so in sense he can probably related with Hughes' disappointment.
vic_orthdox
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Yeah, Hayden was dropped too early in his care...
What?!
What?!
BoyBrumby
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I think pup was saying Hayden was dropped early in his career too (like Hughes was) rather than too early in his career.
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Depends on what you call dropped, really. He had his finger broken by Donald in his first Test in SA (ouch) and then wasn't sighted again for a couple of years before he came back against the WI. Scored a ton then was ousted when Aus moved Elliott up from 3 (from memory, he had a quiet series against SA and the perception was that he'd struggle against the swinging ball in England......haha).
So, the biggest problem for Hayden wasn't being dropped as much as not getting a go in the first place.
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Richard
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Only played those early Tests as a stand-in. Taylor was injured on his debut in '93/94 where he got his finger broken; he came in for Elliott after he got some sort of injury in '96/97, then lost his place not immediately Elliott came back, but after the eight-batsmen-three-bowler strategy was abandoned, which also involved Elliott going back to open with Taylor.
First time Hayden played as a genuine first-choice was in 1999/2000. Hughes is different.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Test average of 34.50 in England tbf.
vic_orthdox
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Think he was referring to Elliott.
zaremba
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Yeah true, sorta what I was saying - was just not given much of a go in the first place, hence 'Give Matt a bat'.
Was referring to Haydos. And I was only laughing about it because all of the Hayden boosters in the 90's said he'd dominate anywhere. The perceptions about him struggling there which were around in the 90's turned out to be pretty much true.
As an aside, have always disputed the problem with Haydos in England was entirely technical. As I've said before, he was plenty successful against top attacks in Shield cricket when the 'Gabba was a seaming and swinging minefield in the 90's. It's part of the reason why Kasper/Bichel weren't given a decent go in Tests; was perceived they'd struggle away from such bowler-friendly conditions at home. I don't think Hayden was held back by people worried he'd struggle against swing but that it was perceived he was over-rated in general and that Taylor and Slater were better. How Elliott managed to get a go at all, with the ban on Victorian batsman representing Australia, somewhat resembles a miracle.
sledger
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Bah, should have called it at the start of the series like me. Now then, where's my prize for predicting correctly?
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Still think that at the start of the series, if Australia were told Hughes would score one less hundred than the entire England side, they'd have been pretty happy.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
The entire England side has now pulled into a magnificent and unassailable 2-0 lead over the dropped Hughes
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Ha, called it. Opiates clearly good for my prognostical powers.None. Gonna play himself out of form come the first test.
& yes, I am on drugs, since you ask.
