chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
Mad, time for McGain show to take place. Should make both the ODI and Test squads IMO.
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Hogg announces his retirement
- Thread starter pasag
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Hogg for me has always come in for a lot of underserved criticism imo, though obviously not as talented or gifted as a lot of the others in the aussie team, he has more often than not put in decent performances with the ball and occasionally the bat, and would be the kind of player most other international sides would be glad to have.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Bit of Hugh Grant about the man.I was about to ask who will take over the role as 1950s throwback, but McGain will do nicely. Would like to see more of a part in his hair, mind...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Never particularly rated Hogg as a ODI bowler TBH but there's no doubting he kept following the bad spells with good ones, and vice-versa. Seems a slightly odd time to retire really, and somewhat annoys me because his record in his last 20 games (IIRR) is now going to be very good.
Rarely has a bowler profited as much from substandard teams as Hogg, of course.
Either way - a better career (far, far better) than I'd ever have expected after seeing him get slammed for 75 off 9 overs (3 no-balls) against Sri Lanka at The SCG in 2002\03.
Rarely has a bowler profited as much from substandard teams as Hogg, of course.
Either way - a better career (far, far better) than I'd ever have expected after seeing him get slammed for 75 off 9 overs (3 no-balls) against Sri Lanka at The SCG in 2002\03.
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
You would think that most of the bowlers in recent times would be profiting from 'substandard teams' just as much as Hogg. You make it sound like he's the only one out there bowling.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Nah, some do profit way more than others. That's obvious. Some play more, some play a larger percentage of games, some do better than others, etc.
Anyway, I'd prefer not to let yet another thread get dragged onto this, as I get the feeling it might annoy some people. So that'll be my last post on the matter.
Anyway, I'd prefer not to let yet another thread get dragged onto this, as I get the feeling it might annoy some people. So that'll be my last post on the matter.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Okay, fair enough. It's just odd that you say "rarely does anyone else profit" when he bowls alongside the likes of Lee and Bracken, who are very fine one day bowlers. Either they profit too and aren't very good, or Hogg is a good (and underrated) bowler, which he is IMO.
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Shut up Richard. Gosh. Not now please.
Awesome ODI bowler, was so good in the World Cup. Really enjoyed him in the team. Proud to have cheered him on at his last SCG Test Match.
Can't understand why so many people are for Hauritz's inclusion? Figures tell the story of how he's gone this season tbh. McGain or Heal without a doubt.
Awesome ODI bowler, was so good in the World Cup. Really enjoyed him in the team. Proud to have cheered him on at his last SCG Test Match.
Can't understand why so many people are for Hauritz's inclusion? Figures tell the story of how he's gone this season tbh. McGain or Heal without a doubt.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
FFS, I said "that'll be the last post of mine on the matter in the thread" didn't I? What's the point in continuing to bash-on about it?
pasag
RTDAS
Superb ODI player who I always felt could be quite servicable in Tests over the next year or two once he got one of the best spin playing nations out of the way. I guess we'll never know. Would have been nice to see him retire after the Champions Trophy, but I guess finishing off at home is what most players want. The news was a bit of a shock really, given how fit he is and how much he seems to enjoy himself.
deeps
International 12th Man
i love hogga, always giving 150% and bowling so good, particularly at one day level.
didn't really cut it at test level, but he played India alot, who are of course the masters of spin bowling... Warne averaged over 50 against India, and so did Hogg, I thought he came in for some undeserved critisicm there.
he lives not too far from me, i've seen him a few times, genuinely nice bloke
I got the feeling punter didnt like him though... he was almost always in the side when Waugh was captain, and once ponting took over, he really had to fight... and even in the tests, i don't think ponting gave him the support he needed to succeed
didn't really cut it at test level, but he played India alot, who are of course the masters of spin bowling... Warne averaged over 50 against India, and so did Hogg, I thought he came in for some undeserved critisicm there.
he lives not too far from me, i've seen him a few times, genuinely nice bloke
I got the feeling punter didnt like him though... he was almost always in the side when Waugh was captain, and once ponting took over, he really had to fight... and even in the tests, i don't think ponting gave him the support he needed to succeed
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
Hmm did he play any games under Waugh. Didn't he make is ODI debut the season Waugh got dropped from the ODI team.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Good player.
sideshowtim
Banned
Hogg is actually well reputed as a very good mate of everyone in the team and someone everyone loves having around. Punter speaks very highly of him in his tour diaries so I dunno where you get the idea that Punter doesn't like him much from.
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
The continual selection of seamer ahead of Hogg. But most of that was due to pitch conditions. As soon as they played on less seamer friendly pitches or a spinner friendly one, Hogg usually came back in.