Herbert Sutcliffe vs Wally Hammond

[Johan]

Two Batsmen in the English top 5

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Hammond is probably a top 10 test batsman while Sutcliffe might just miss out

 

[kyear2]

Walter Hammond

 

[Coronis]

Love Sutcliffe to death. But its Hammond. His ability to go big and dominate when on was second only to Bradman. (Lara and Sanga would fight him for this)

 

[Johan]

Hammond is probably a top 10 test batsman while Sutcliffe might just miss out

Think I've Hobbs/Hutton/Hammond all in my top 10 too

 

[Coronis]

I have all 4 tbh.

 

[DrWolverine]

I have all 4 tbh.

Can I have your top 10 list?

 

[Coronis]

Can I have your top 10 list?

Bradman
Hobbs
Tendulkar
Sobers
Smith
Hammond
Lara
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Gavaskar

Ask me another day and 5/6/7 could be rated in a completely different order. The others I’m pretty set on right now.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Think I've Hobbs/Hutton/Hammond all in my top 10 too

Same

 

[Johan]

think I've Hobbs>Hutton>Hammond>Sutcliffe

 

[PlayerComparisons]

think I've Hobbs>Hutton>Hammond>Sutcliffe

Same. Barrington at 5 and then probably Root at 6 for me.

Compton, May, Boycott the next three in some order. Brook should end up in the top 10.

 

[DrWolverine]

Hobbs.
Sutcliffe.
Hammond.
Hutton.
Barrington.

Top 5 batsmen.

It’s been more than 50 years since Ken retired and not one batter has come close to these guys

 

[Johan]

Root will probably go past Barrington, his era has been tougher than 60s but I don't know how to get to top 4 without an ATG Aus series, that's like, a requirement.

 

[Johan]

Same. Barrington at 5 and then probably Root at 6 for me.

Compton, May, Boycott the next three in some order. Brook should end up in the top 10.

I'll be quite dissapointed if he doesn't

 

[DrWolverine]

Root will probably go past Barrington, his era has been tougher than 60s but I don't know how to get to top 4 without an ATG Aus series, that's like, a requirement.

The disrespect for Ken Barrington

 

[Johan]

The disrespect for Ken Barrington

Hey I like him, just being realistic

 

[Coronis]

Hey I like him, just being realistic

Lets face it, Ashes is kind of important for Aus/Eng bats.

Root in Ashes 65 innings 2428 @ 40.46
Barrington in Ashes 39 innings 2111 @ 63.96

 

[DrWolverine]

Some arguments for Joe Root over Ken Barrington

- He has played more Tests. Thought it is not really Ken’s fault less tests were played back then.

- Faced more quality teams. Ind, Pak and NZ were minnows back in the 1960s. The only two good teams back then were Aus and WI.

 

[Johan]

Lets face it, Ashes is kind of important for Aus/Eng bats.

Root in Ashes 65 innings 2428 @ 40.46
Barrington in Ashes 39 innings 2111 @ 63.96

this the logic some old ass man in London would use for Boycott>Ponting

it also leads to Barrington > Ponting and Chappel, lame

 

[Coronis]

Some arguments for Joe Root over Ken Barrington

- He has played more Tests. Thought it is not really Ken’s fault less tests were played back then.

- Faced more quality teams. Ind, Pak and NZ were minnows back in the 1960s. The only two good teams back then were Aus and WI.

I really dislike this term, or how its used.

These term was basically invented for Bangladesh in the 00’s. And fair play too, just look at their record. 61 tests, 3 wins, 52 losses. Their only wins were against Zimbabwe right before they stopped playing tests after a period of shittiness comparable to Bangladesh post Flower and Streak. And 2 against possibly the worst Windies team of all time right at the end of the decade (Chanders missed those matches).

These teams were never anywhere near as bad as Bangladesh. No team was frankly. (Maybe NZ in the 30’s? idr). The term minnow is thrown around way too lightly imo.