NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
Maybe in 1800s England, got a bit more professional since then tho.We're talking cricket here right? The one where the gangly, the soft-spoken and the unathletic have performed?
Maybe in 1800s England, got a bit more professional since then tho.We're talking cricket here right? The one where the gangly, the soft-spoken and the unathletic have performed?
A player's mental health is more important than a score line in any series. Coaches take in these roles which are as much about man management as technical prowess.At the same time though, what if Strauss had led us to a 5-0 defeat in Australia? Who do you turn to when KP and Moores have a massive falling out?
**** happens for a reason. Fletcher's appaling management in 2006 has turned out to have massive benefits for England 5 years down the line.
Marcus Trescothick effect obviously. ssrly. If he had got the reaction Dunc feared Flintoff would have got there's no doubt these guys would have kept it hidden.I think English cricketers just have more of a precedent to be able to admit this kinda thing. I mean, Davies came out, so citing depression isn't a big deal anymore.
Depression is a horrible illness btw.
Yeah, same. Probably the most visibly obvious case of it on the cricket field (despite what it says about it not transforming), especially when you consider how he sometimes just seemed to lose the plot away from home.I wondered whether that may have been the case.
Not seen it yet but I wonder if Tresco declined to be interviewed, having already said so much about it in the past?How many people saw the programme?
Thought it was really good, Fred is so ridiculously likeable that he even made up for Piers Morgan ( who was actually quite interesting) making an appearance. Treso was never mentioned but there is no way a documentary like this would not have been made before his book.
A lot of stigma still attached to stuff like that in other countries. Good to see it's more open in England.Is it? I imagine it's more likely that confirmed cases are becoming more prominent rather than the illness itself.
Very good point!I'd be depressed too if I were English.
I am guessing so yeah and no reason he should say anymore, was good that it did not just focus on cricket in any case.Not seen it yet but I wonder if Tresco declined to be interviewed, having already said so much about it in the past?
Does seem to be a relationship.Some disappointing posts in this thread tbh
Yeah; I was on anti-depressants for a bit. Just made me feel emotionally numb, and then paranoid. Didn't agree with me at all.Does seem to be a relationship.
Sometimes I wonder if we are all going soft though? It's normal to get down. Should just harden up, no? But you aren't supposed to say that these days. Dunno. Have a beer.
One thing I'll say from personal experience though, a close family member suffered hard and went on anti-depressants. They are far worse imo than the condition itself. Completely changed person, no good at all.
Yeah, I watched it last night after my previous post.How many people saw the programme?
Thought it was really good, Fred is so ridiculously likeable that he even made up for Piers Morgan ( who was actually quite interesting) making an appearance. Treso was never mentioned but there is no way a documentary like this would not have been made before his book.
Don't forget Hoggard as well suffered from it.Not really surprised.
Still, it's fairly strange to see that most of the cricketers who came out with depression (Harmison, Flintoff, Thorpe (kinda), Trescothick, Yardy) are English.