England *were* cheated out of the game by D/L. I don't give a toss what people say, England outplayed West Indies yet they've lost the match. It's not West Indies' fault obviously and they may well have played better if they were chasing it off 20 overs, but they weren't and you can only go on what happened - England played better, they deserved to win, they didn't because of D/L - nothing else.
With respect, you're missing the point. I'm not trying to undertake a comparison between Bopara and any West Indian players. (If I were to do so, I think I'd want to look just a little bit further than a handful of T20 games). All I'm saying is that he's demonstrated to the West Indies that he's a good player. And I doubt many West Indies players or supporters would disagree with that.
Think you're just misunderstanding the phrase. England 'being cheated out of a win' is not equivalent to 'the West Indies beat England by cheating'. It just means that they should have won or deserved to win, but didn't for whatever reason (usually relating to bad fortune). If for example India were dominating Australia in a Test match but it was rained off, you might say that India were cheated out of a win.
yeah that stat is true.
I'm sure they'll cope. Chris Gayle, who, as captain, turned up from the IPL 2 days before the recent 1st Test and spoke of his indifference for Test cricket 2 days before the 2nd Test, and who led his team to a pretty grisly defeat, has done more to disrespect his team and supporters than anyone here would dream of doing. And I have precisely zero against either the Windies or their fans. With the sole exception of sammy2...
Upwards generally which leaves the chasing team slightly with their pants down
WI supporters didn't questioned English batting lineup, atleast not in this thread. One English fan had a go at WI batting lineup and he was greeted with a Tongue-In-cheek remark. That particular remark was never about Bopara or any single English Batsman.
If it's 'disrespectful' to criticise a team's batting lineup you might as well shut down the forum.
D/L target would have been same for any team in this situation, so don't understand why is it unfair ? England didn't bat well and paid the price for it.
I was levelling the critisicm at the lack of depth and reliance on 2 players TBH. All well and good if they fire, but they don't, we are stuffed.
Where did I suggest that English fans accused WI of cheating. They are being disrespectful by not recognizing that they were beaten by WI fair and square as per the laws/rules of the game.
It was 'unfair' because it artificially altered the balance of the game. A 'fair' target would preserve the balance of the game as it stood prior to the rain delay. Obviously it's a matter of debate as to what target would achieve this 'fair' outcome, but I was of the opinion that 80 off 9 overs was not a fair target.
Look, we're not being disrespectful. Windies have done nothing wrong. No problem with them, all they could do was score the runs asked of them. If they'd been set 10 more they might well have done it, given that they won with 3 balls to go.
Oh Please, stop the idiocy and Read the following piece of crap and then tell me if you do not find it insulting :-
Must of been watching a different game for me, England played and are ****, I can see how this team lost to holland.
