chaminda_00
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Have a bad feeling Sri Lanka will feel the brunt of Australia's pain and will get undone by the terrible two in Edwards and Lawson. Really need our batsmen to step up to have a chance. Worst result for us last night.
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Group C - Australia, Sri Lanka, West Indies
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Redbacks
International Captain
nah we just need to put together a southern premier league. Get a couple teams from NZ invovled and we can start to develop some specialist T20 spinners, given their almost non existance in Aus domestic cricket. I can't see any state side saying "Well he doesn't deserve a spot, but for the good of the national T20 side
" So I also think perhaps taking these 'teams' slightly away from the States (at least contractual arrangements differing slightly) might have an added benefit, as currently it's not financially viable to contract a 'T20 specialist' (ugly term I know), and if they don't play state cricket they will just have to make do like a grade cricketer. With good pay for when their services are required for short periods.
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
I do wonder if people watch the big bash. The best bowlers outside the Vic quick were spinners. Heal, Haurtiz, Crazy, McGain outperformed most of the bowlers in this squad in that format.
Matt79
Hall of Fame Member
Great, more T20, and players who are no good in tests around the national set up...nah we just need to put together a southern premier league. Get a couple teams from NZ invovled and we can start to develop some specialist T20 spinners, given their almost non existance in Aus domestic cricket. I can't see any state side saying "Well he doesn't deserve a spot, but for the good of the national T20 side
Cruxdude
International Debutant
What is needed for Australia is some brave selections only then can they improve in T20.
Find a spinner quick or it is going to kill the Aussies in all the formats.Whats up with Shaun Marsh? Is he injured? Hughes should play in ODIs and T20. He is already unorthodox according to what everyone says. Get him into T20 and we will see some fireworks. Drop Hopes. Krezja can do well also. He tosses the ball up and spins it well.
It is only a matter of time before Aussies get the hang of it though. They are not like England to delude themselves for long.
Find a spinner quick or it is going to kill the Aussies in all the formats.Whats up with Shaun Marsh? Is he injured? Hughes should play in ODIs and T20. He is already unorthodox according to what everyone says. Get him into T20 and we will see some fireworks. Drop Hopes. Krezja can do well also. He tosses the ball up and spins it well.
It is only a matter of time before Aussies get the hang of it though. They are not like England to delude themselves for long.
Postmanpat
Cricket Spectator
Yep, but it was much more painful watching it 
Burgey
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If Cardiff turns Hauritz will play I imagine. Probably means the humann muscle strain (Watson) bats 6.
Prince EWS
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Personally reckon Bracken's cutters turn more than Hauritz's off-break: should be play too?
It may turn a little bit, but it's not going to be a bunsen; it's England. Lee's more likely to make more of an impact with the ball than Hauritz on 99.9% of pitches.
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Migara
International Coach
I think, Aus will murder us. The SL-WI match would be the decider. Most of WIndies have a problem against Lankan bowling. Unfirtunately Vaas is not playing, and Gayle has been his bitch for a looong lime.
Redbacks
International Captain
nah, just a new way of thinking
Top_Cat
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They just don't give a crap. Using this as a warm-up for the Ashes, in my view.
Picking some players who actually did well in the domestic T20 comp might help. Leaving out one of the best performed T20 players in the world (Hodge) was a harbinger of not only that he's not in Test contention in England but that they have no major interest in winning the whole thing.
I mean, just look at the squad; most of them barely played T20 for their states last season nor IPL. How on Earth would anyone expect them to dominate against international teams? Both Ponting and Clarke have no place in a championship winning T20 side and they're the captain and vice. Couple that with bowlers who've been injured and barely bowled for state or country in the past year (Watson and Lee) and picking blokes out of form (Bracken) or under-performing in the format (Hopes) and last night's result comes as absolutely no surprise. If this was the best Australia had, fine. But there are blokes out there better suited to T20 who aren't in the side that should be.
This squad was clearly, in my view, picked for reasons other than winning the tournament. Aus have been guilty in the past of picking teams to prepare for future tournaments (they didn't pick their best ICC Champion's Trophy team for the first couple) so they have form in this area too. Until they take it seriously, they'll keep getting hammered.
pasag
RTDAS
Yes, we laugh at Paul Collingwood but we're just as bad. The first order of business to rectify this is to have specialist selectors, imho. Get Lehmann, Warne and someone else who knows what they're doing to pick the sides.
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social
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Spot on
jondavluc
State Regular
Mostly Agree with that.
Matt79
Hall of Fame Member
Well, then I'd like this 'new thinking' to include a decision to cease the pretence that T20 has anything to do with proper cricket and it be treated by selectors as wholly unrelated, and not to interfere with the test team.
A team made of people who perform in domestic T20 and who we don't care about getting injured/burnt out is the way to go: Warner, Hodge, Nannes, Quiney, D.Hussey, White, Harwood, etc. Would probably do better anyway. Guys like Johnson, Ponting, Watson etc are too important to our plans for the test team to be wastes in a mickey mouse format.
A team made of people who perform in domestic T20 and who we don't care about getting injured/burnt out is the way to go: Warner, Hodge, Nannes, Quiney, D.Hussey, White, Harwood, etc. Would probably do better anyway. Guys like Johnson, Ponting, Watson etc are too important to our plans for the test team to be wastes in a mickey mouse format.
duffer
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Heh, love the 'we're **** because we don't really care' attitude being used as an explanation here. If they don't care, maybe they should try and catch up with the rest of the world sometime soon because this format no matter what the haters say is going to be a big part of cricket's future for a long time. Ludicrous attitude for a so called powerhouse cricket nation to be taking.