Group A - South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

[andyc]

Haha wow, just looking at Khune's red card now. Definitely looks to me like he was expecting the Uruguay player to have a shot instead of taking another touch as he did. Could see it being a penalty because of how bad it looked, but not a red, surely.

 

[Matteh]

Shouldn't have been a red purely for the way Suarez reacted once he'd been clipped, looked like he'd been shot ffs.

Definitely was a penalty, definitely wasn't offside.

 

[shivfan]

Two matches, three goals scored, none conceded....

Uruguay are off to a good start. I'm sure their manager is pleased with that!

 

[Uppercut]

Definitely a red because Suarez had an open net if the keeper didn't foul him. Fair enough if you disagree with the rules, but given the letter of the law, the keeper has to walk.

 

[L Trumper]

Denying a clear goal scoring opportunity by foul play is a red card. Considring he is the last SA player and tripped suarez 3 yards in front of goal, it'll be a red card[At least according to rules], more often than not it depends on referee though.

 

[Scaly piscine]

He took the ball miles away from goal, there was no way he was getting it whether he was unimpeded or decided to dive over a leg like he was shot.

 

[Jarquis]

Definitely a red because Suarez had an open net if the keeper didn't foul him. Fair enough if you disagree with the rules, but given the letter of the law, the keeper has to walk.

There was no way on Earth Suarez was getting to the ball, his last touch had all but kicked it out for a throw in ffs.

 

[GIMH]

There was the group in Italia 90 or USA 94 involving Ireland where both the top team and the bottom team finished on 4 points.

Yeah, Italy, Norway, Mexico & Ireland. Back then, 3 teams would go through from 4 of the 6 groups so only Norway went out, for some reason they played for a draw in the final game against Ireland even though they went into the game 4th

I reckon that's why Vimes hates ugly football so much, reminds him of the World Cup place they wasted after stealing it from England

Can someone perhaps explain the reason for the goalie's red card to me, keeping in mind that the first full football match I've watched in my life was the SA-Mexico game? Is the goalie not allowed to touch the players at all or something? And wasn't the Uruguay chap offside for that last pass?

I'm not suggesting we should have won or anything, I'd just like to know if the tirade of ref-blasting is justified or not.

It's a professional foul if a player prevents a goalscoring opportunity. Generally if the keeper takes someone down in the box then that's what has happened. Now some are debating it in this case but if a player hits the ball past the keeper and then the keeper takes him down it's always going to be a red.

Haha wow, just looking at Khune's red card now. Definitely looks to me like he was expecting the Uruguay player to have a shot instead of taking another touch as he did. Could see it being a penalty because of how bad it looked, but not a red, surely.

Bit worrying that someone who plays in goal doesn't know that that was a read, or maybe it's the old goalkeepers' union out in force

 

[Uppercut]

There was no way on Earth Suarez was getting to the ball, his last touch had all but kicked it out for a throw in ffs.

Really? Now how I remembered it, but if that's the case then bad decision.

 

[sledger]

Carn Mexico. Given France's tactical ineptitude I would not rule out them getting at least a draw from this match.

 

[Jarquis]

Really? Now how I remembered it, but if that's the case then bad decision.

Was somewhat of an exaggeration Had been having the same argument at school all day so when I saw your post I was somewhat annoyed.

His touch is heavy and takes the ball away from goal. Defenders would've got there first IMO.

 

[L Trumper]

Its called playing for the foul... So many players do that in penalty area, it doesn't matter how heavier the touch is, bottom line is he was denied a goal scoring opportunity.

 

[Jarquis]

No the touch was that heavy that if there hadn't been contact we'd all be mocking Suarez for being an oaf and costing his team an opportunity.
He lost control of the ball ergo had no opportunity to score.

 

[Goughy]

I thought the red was harsh but I understand it. Surely in a circumstance like that then the pen is enough?

 

[Furball]

He took the ball miles away from goal, there was no way he was getting it whether he was unimpeded or decided to dive over a leg like he was shot.

You'll have to point me to the rule which states that it's the player in possession's responsibility to avoid contact when a defender tries to half you.

 

[Jarquis]

Haha, 'sif the keeper was trying to "half him".

 

[BoyBrumby]

Been all Mexico. Combination of shyte finishing (Vela once more showing his inability to hit a cow's arse with a banjo, already amply demonstrated at The Arse) and Lloris have kept in goalless at the break.

 

[The Sean]

Clarence Seedorf - WAG.

 

[GIMH]

France are turd but I'm sure I remember them being this awful at this point four years ago

 

[BoyBrumby]

France are turd but I'm sure I remember them being this awful at this point four years ago

Yeah, started with two draws, didn't they? Then beat (IIRC) South Korea to qualify.