Greg Chappell Vs Rahul Dravid - who was the better test match batsman?

[the big bambino]

It's the unusual concentration of dicks in a population the equivalent of Karachi which is worrisome though.

This population sample you're talking about; is it Sub con posters on CW?

Everything is about nationality in this thread. You might be missing the fact that there is banter going on here.

Just waiting for this type of post. When you get some back all of a sudden its "omg why don't you lighten up fella?" Geez buddy, banter yourself. I wuz jus funnin'

No Australian batsman in the last 100 years would have cracked the Indian side on account of your genetically weak colons tbh

Its almost like you have to be a barnyard animal to make it.

 

[harsh.ag]

There is a discussion to be had on what makes some great batsmen feel more secure and perform better at number 4 rather than 3. Chappell, Pollock, Tendulkar. Could have all batted #3 if they chose to. The transition from 4 to 3 is something Smith has done that is quite admirable. Kohli seems unwilling, although that might be because of the tradition set by Dravid and Pujara coming along *looking like* a natural successor.

SWaugh and Chanderpaul are rare species, the best batsmen who preferred to stay at 5, or 6 even.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Add Adam Voges

 

[stephen]

Yeah. Probably means he deserved more chances post 97

Definitely. Was carving up the shield and probably would have averaged 45+ if given another run.

 

[trundler]

There is a discussion to be had on what makes some great batsmen feel more secure and perform better at number 4 rather than 3. Chappell, Pollock, Tendulkar. Could have all batted #3 if they chose to. The transition from 4 to 3 is something Smith has done that is quite admirable. Kohli seems unwilling, although that might be because of the tradition set by Dravid and Pujara coming along *looking like* a natural successor.

SWaugh and Chanderpaul are rare species, the best batsmen who preferred to stay at 5, or 6 even.

Sobers and Barrington have impressive averages at 3 but for some reason preferred batting lower.

 

[harsh.ag]

Sobers is understandable, being an all rounder. Barrington did play a significant number of games at 3, so not sure if it applies to him.

 

[Coronis]

I do remember reading some sort of article on Cricinfo or somewhere about batting positions and their averages over the years. Made for interesting reading, might be relevant to this discussion but cbf finding it at this point.

 

[cnerd123]

There is a discussion to be had on what makes some great batsmen feel more secure and perform better at number 4 rather than 3. Chappell, Pollock, Tendulkar. Could have all batted #3 if they chose to. The transition from 4 to 3 is something Smith has done that is quite admirable. Kohli seems unwilling, although that might be because of the tradition set by Dravid and Pujara coming along *looking like* a natural successor.

SWaugh and Chanderpaul are rare species, the best batsmen who preferred to stay at 5, or 6 even.

It's a team sport. Sometimes it's not just the batsman's choice where they spend most of their career. Coaches and culture also dictate where players bat - like you mentioned in the examples of Kohli and Pujara. Indian cricket culture has long had the 'best' batsman bat at 4 and a Dravid-style player at 3, so these guys fit the mould. Steve Smith might have been happy to bat the rest of his career at 4, but eventually he was forced to move up and take over number 3 due to a lack of alternatives and a strong Aussie Cricket Culture of having the best batsman bat at 3.

I think it's hard to isolate this and focus on the batsman, because it isn't an individual decision. External factors play a big role.

 

[Borges]

External factors play no role for the batsman who is clearly the best in the team. He would get to bat where he wants to bat, and the others would play around him.

 

[trundler]

Didn't Lara say he actually preferred batting at 5 instead of 3 where he spent most of his career?

 

[Starfighter]

External factors play no role for the batsman who is clearly the best in the team. He would get to bat where he wants to bat, and the others would play around him.

Root clearly moved up to three to 'take responsibility' and due to England's terrible top order and surfeit of lower order batsmen.

Of course when combined with the captaincy he's not cut out for he failed and now his average is rapidly heading south.

 

[Daemon]

Just waiting for this type of post. When you get some back all of a sudden its "omg why don't you lighten up fella?" Geez buddy, banter yourself. I wuz jus funnin'

 

[cnerd123]

External factors play no role for the batsman who is clearly the best in the team. He would get to bat where he wants to bat, and the others would play around him.

Well sure, but this is a team sport and a vast majority of players care about their team winning over their own batting average. Players who put what they want ahead of what's best for the team tend to not make it far, and those who do are isolated cases, not the general trend.

External factors do matter.

 

[Burgey]

Trying so hard to makes excuses for Tendulkar here

 

[ankitj]

Just waiting for this type of post. When you get some back all of a sudden its "omg why don't you lighten up fella?" Geez buddy, banter yourself. I wuz jus funnin'

What? Your post I replied to wasn't giving me anything back. You were taking offence seemingly and I was trying to comfort you. Indians always show sensitivity to distressed people, even if they are Australian.

 

[the big bambino]

What? Your post I replied to wasn't giving me anything back. You were taking offence seemingly and I was trying to comfort you. Indians always show sensitivity to distressed people, even if they are Australian.

Mate if it’s just banter remember? Stop taking things to heart.

 

[harsh.ag]

Trying so hard to makes excuses for Tendulkar here

Heh. Implies Greg though Ian was the better bat.

 

[trundler]

At least Greg stepped up to the job when the need arose.

 

[ankitj]

Mate if it’s just banter remember? Stop taking things to heart.

You are a good guy. Too un-Australian. It's a compliment.

 

[trundler]

Mate if it’s just banter remember? Stop taking things to heart.

I think the point is that no one felt the need to break it down to Burgey.