Paid The Umpire
All Time Legend
What about McGrath and Warne.
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greatest fast bowling pair
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FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Warne's got a mean bouncer.Dasa said:
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
There's no answer to that - debate over, next question please.Slifer said:
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Stats for other opening bowlers? They're very impressive (I'm assuming that's the combined stats for the two bowlers in matches in which they have opened?) but not that much better than their normal stats. Marshall and Garner both average under 21 with the ball anyway with excellent strike rates, and I'd be interested to see how Lillee/Thomson, the Ws, Lindwall/Miller etc went statistically.
godofcricket
State 12th Man
Ambrose & Bishop= Strike rate: 46.93 Average: 18.87FaaipDeOiad said:
Lindwall & Miller = strike rate: 62.18 Average: 24.22
Akram & Waqar = strike rate: 45.46 Average: 21.92
Donald & Pollock= Strike rate: 50.82 Average: 21.42
Mcgrath & Gillespie=Strike rate: 53.30 Average: 23.15
Ambrose & Walsh=Strike Rate: 54.65 Average: 21.73
The best of all time were Marshall and Garner, had an average of 20.09 and a strike rate of 44.61 probably followed closely by Ambrose/ Bishop and wasim/waqar.
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Beleg
International Regular
what is interesting is that wasim/waqar and ambrose/walsh maintained it over a far longer period than garner/marshal.
Specially in the case of the two W's, from 50 odd match they average only 1.8+ greater than marshall/garner and the strike-rate difference is also 1. garner/marshall mainatained their stats for 20 odd games - far less than the W's who also did over a far larger number of years.
Specially in the case of the two W's, from 50 odd match they average only 1.8+ greater than marshall/garner and the strike-rate difference is also 1. garner/marshall mainatained their stats for 20 odd games - far less than the W's who also did over a far larger number of years.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
I think Beleg raises a good point here. One of the major criteria for a "great fast bowling pair" is surely longevity. Marshall and Garner for me were one of several excellent opening bowling pairs within a particular period for the West Indies, but really they got shuffled around a fair amount. There was Roberts and Holding, Holding and Croft, Holding and Garner, Holding and Marshall, Marshall and Garner and so on. With the depth of West Indian bowling (plus the odd injury and so on), they had a lot of resources to call on, and I don't think Marshall and Garner defined the team as the opening bowlers the same way that the Ws or Lillee & Thommo did, as pairs who opened consistently for years and maintained their success. Ambrose and Walsh are definately more "great" as an opening pair for me than Ambrose and Bishop for example, as Bishop's injuries really hurt him as a bowler and they didn't open together for that long.
All those West Indian opening pairs were great of course.
All those West Indian opening pairs were great of course.
Actually it was the other way around, the ppl who criticized Shoaib while he was in Australia were actually pure disgrace!!Storer123 said:
Shoaib bowled pretty well in Australia even though he had no support from other end , and whatever good work he did was wasted by Pak incompetent batsmen.It was Bob Woomer and Inzi who started criticising Akhter for not reducing his runup, and when he finally did and was less effected he was criticized by some Aussie player for not giving his best.
What is one suppose to do in such a situation?
godofcricket
State 12th Man
I dont understand why woolmer and Inzamam seem to be criticising Akhtar over the run-up issue, if thats the way he can bowl well then let him do it.
Barney Rubble
International Coach
KP dealt with it no problem when he bowled one in the first Test - saw it coming, he did.FaaipDeOiad said:
Pedro Delgado
International Debutant
Yeah, it's about as mean as the bouncer in Neighbours.Barney Rubble said:KP dealt with it no problem when he bowled one in the first Test - saw it coming, he did.
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Your location is down as Derby, so I was expecting you to say Dean and Lungley.The King said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Pedro Delgado said:
