Greatest all-rounder pre-Sobers

[a massive zebra]

Where are these people who analyse historical cricket scorecards for a living and how do I become one of them

Not sure about "for a living", but this group analyse historical cricket scorecards:

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[AndrewB]

Batting
Frank Worrell
Vijay Hazare
Frank Woolley
Gilbert Jessop
Wilfred Rhodes
Dattu Phadkar
Len Braund
Alan Davidson

Bowling
Alan Davidson
Wilfred Rhodes
Frank Woolley
Dattu Phadkar
Len Braund
Frank Worrell
Gilbert Jessop
Vijay Hazare

 

[watson]

Miller wasn’t really Pre-Sobers, so probably Monty Noble.

 

[Starfighter]

Miller played 40 of his 55 tests before Sober's debut, and his career ended when Sobers had played 9 tests, so I would say he is pre-Sobers.

 

[morgieb]

Miller played 40 of his 55 tests before Sober's debut, and his career ended when Sobers had played 9 tests, so I would say he is pre-Sobers.

Yeah Sobers wasn't a particularly good cricketer before 1958. Miller's career finished in 1956.

 

[jimmy101]

Glad to see the debate is live and well but we've had only two voters so far. Throw em down lads!

 

[marc71178]

Speaking personally I think the method of voting is putting people off. Ranking them twice like that isn't necessarily the best way to list all rounders and it may well be a straight pick 4 from 8 would attract more people to vote?

 

[ankitj]

I don't know a few cricketers shortlisted so I think it's best to abstain from voting. I will vote in future rounds if we are down to players I have some information on.

 

[a massive zebra]

POT A

Len Braund
Alan Davidson
Vijay Hazare
Gilbert Jessop
Dattu Phadkar
Wilfred Rhodes
Frank Woolley
Frank Worrell

Batting

Hazare
Worrell
Woolley
Jessop
Phadkar
Rhodes
Braund
Davidson

Bowling

Rhodes
Davidson
Woolley
Phadhar
Braund
Jessop
Worrell
Hazare

 

[bagapath]

Batting

Worrell
Hazare
Woolley
Rhodes
Jessop
Phadkar
Braund
Davidson

Bowling

Rhodes
Davidson
Woolley
Phadhar
Braund
Jessop
Worrell
Hazare

 

[jimmy101]

4 voters so far. Seems this thread is just barely alive. If anyone else out there wants to join in and keep the thread going, by all means cast your votes!

Admittedly this a rather thorough method of ranking, it was always intended for the more hardcore old-timey cricket fans. However, we'll end up with a fairly definitive ranking system if it gets done.

 

[kingkallis]

Batting:
Frank Worrell
Vijay Hazare
Frank Woolley
Gilbert Jessop
Wilfred Rhodes
Dattu Phadkar
Len Braund
Alan Davidson

Bowling:
Alan Davidson
Wilfred Rhodes
Frank Woolley
Dattu Phadkar
Len Braund
Frank Worrell
Gilbert Jessop
Vijay Hazare

 

[Migara]

Miller, Falikner, Grace and Alan Davidson

 

[Daemon]

It's obviously Mitch marsh

 

[jimmy101]

Points Update

Woolley 53
Rhodes 48
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Worrell 40
Davidson 33
Hazare 30
Phadkar 28
Jessop 27
Braund 21

Well, that's five voters... and Davidson is in trouble!! so far his batting has really weighted him down. Looking to get at least 10 voters before moving on to pot B. If not I'll retire the concept.