G. Pollock/Rice vs Richards/Procter

[shortpitched713]

Which pair of batsman/all-rounder would you rather build an FC team around?

Also, which batsman was better, and which all-rounder was better?

 

[Coronis]

Which pair of batsman/all-rounder would you rather build an FC team around?

Also, which batsman was better, and which all-rounder was better?

Richards and Procter.

Procter was a definite spearhead of an attack - Rice has similar stats to Miller in terms of overs bowled and wpm in FC (Miller ended up bowling a lot more in tests than he did in FC). Procter being a leading bowler is more valuable here.

Procter is the better allrounder for me, the bowling difference is the deciding factor. Their batting difference might even be less than I once thought/assumed taking a closer look at their stats. Both have 48 FC tons, Procter 109 50’s and Rice 137 50’s but Procter scored his in 100 less innings - Rice had a significantly larger amount of not outs.

Pollock is the better batsman for me, has Barry beat on longevity and output in their shared competition. He also performed just as well as him in their shared test series.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Richards and Procter.

Procter was a definite spearhead of an attack - Rice has similar stats to Miller in terms of overs bowled and wpm in FC (Miller ended up bowling a lot more in tests than he did in FC). Procter being a leading bowler is more valuable here.

Procter is the better allrounder for me, the bowling difference is the deciding factor. Their batting difference might even be less than I once thought/assumed taking a closer look at their stats. Both have 48 FC tons, Procter 109 50’s and Rice 137 50’s but Procter scored his in 100 less innings - Rice had a significantly larger amount of not outs.

Pollock is the better batsman for me, has Barry beat on longevity and output in their shared competition. He also performed just as well as him in their shared test series.

I think the gap between Procter and Rice is large enough to overcome the one between Richards and Pollock comfortably; even more so as Rice was more of a 5th and even at times 6th bowler for the latter 2/3 of his career

 

[shortpitched713]

Pollock is the better batsman for me, has Barry beat on longevity and output in their shared competition. He also performed just as well as him in their shared test series.

But the opener tax though...

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Richards and Proctor

 

[StephenZA]

Proctor was a bowler who could bat well. Rice was a genuine batting allrounder. Rice unfortunately is very underrated because of his lack of international exposure. Very good captain as well. And G. Pollock was the best batsmen SA has produced to date. So I would probably go Pollock/Rice.

 

[SeamUp]

Proctor was a bowler who could bat well. Rice was a genuine batting allrounder. Rice unfortunately is very underrated because of his lack of international exposure. Very good captain as well. And G. Pollock was the best batsmen SA has produced to date. So I would probably go Pollock/Rice.

That shouldn't be underestimated. He built his Transvaal team to be uncompromising much like he was as a cricketer. And they stayed at the top for a long time. He then reclaimed the Notts captaincy (after Kerry Packer) and helped win Notts to their first County Championship win since 1929 in 1981. I think he started bowling less later on much like Procter because of niggling injuries.

Eddie Barlow and Clive Rice. Can't think of two bigger cricketing personalities in SA cricket history. Proper leaders.

Some excellent write-ups/interview by who else but Luke Alfred.

Ricey remembers

A South Africa and Nottinghamshire colossus, now beset by illness, looks back at his career

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The last of Clive Rice

His funeral in Johannesburg showed, among other things, that his death has struck a surprisingly raw nerve in South Africa

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The epitome of a South African age

In the 1970s and 1980s, heroes didn't come any more impressive in Transvaal, but in the end, Clive Rice was destined to be part of a forgotten generation

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[SeamUp]

1981 County Championship.

Runs, wickets and captaincy. A true all-rounder. It just seems fair he gets a fair rap.

Obviously Procter is more well known and probably had more x-factor in what he did.

Be lovely to have both.