Future ****Stars**** of Australian Cricket

[Mister Wright]

my goodness another crazy comment on two of the biggest young talents in australia. Maybe they both aren't anything superb at the moment but the have loads of potnential, Watson is australia next great all-rounder for sure, all he needs is more exposure to the international arena and his enourmous talent is bound to be fullfilled. Its just like when flintoff came on the international stage, he had the potential but in the early days showed it very few times e.g (His 86 of balls againts Pakistan in rawalpindi in 2000) and that was againts wasim, waqar, saqlain, and mushtaq ahmed, he smashed them everywhere. Now look and Freddie he is arguably the best all-rounder in the world at the moment.All aussie fans expect him to have a big career for australia, so i cant see how u can say he isn't anything special mate.

While white is one of the better young spinners in australia, maybe his bowling has fallen away sicne he has become victorian captain has been underbowling himself throughout
this season but before that in past seasons and at junior level he has shown great potential, He surely for me along will lead the next generation of aussie spinners along with Cullen, Casson and the others. Great things weren't even expected out of warne when he first came into the australian team but he had the potential to do well at this level so does Cameron White.

The last thing Watson needs is continued exposure in the international side. Fair enough play him in the ODIs, but let's not rush him into the test side while we are so successfull. We don't want to see happen to Watson as has happened to Clarke - exposed to early, it will hinder rather than help his career.

 

[social]

The last thing Watson needs is continued exposure in the international side. Fair enough play him in the ODIs, but let's not rush him into the test side while we are so successfull. We don't want to see happen to Watson as has happened to Clarke - exposed to early, it will hinder rather than help his career.

Clarke is a superb talent and in all likelihood will be succesful.

To say that he has been exposed too early is to ignore his results to date - century on debut, devastating 100 vs Kiwis, great fielder, excellent ODI record. He is in front of schedule.

 

[aussie]

aussie

Clarke is a superb talent and in all likelihood will be succesful.

To say that he has been exposed too early is to ignore his results to date - century on debut, devastating 100 vs Kiwis, great fielder, excellent ODI record. He is in front of schedule.

agreed on that

 

[The Argonaut]

So The Argonaut was talking about people who are currently unlucky not to be playing?
No, he was talking about people who are unlucky never to have played.

That's not right. I'm talking about the next best at the moment. Luck has nothing to do with it. None of them have done enough to force one of the encumbents out.

Inness is not in the picture because he has been outbowled by Lewis, Harvey and Harwood this season, averaging nearly 40 per wicket. He may have been good some time ago but certainly not now.

Lewis has had a good season but I rate him as a similar player to Wright in that he is solid but not spectacular. Bichel is in the same league and probably played more tests than his ability would allow. He just has a big heart.

Watson will be a star for Australia in the long run. I rate him as a batsman only though. His bowling is not up to it. If he concentrated on his batting only he will have a long test career. Think of Steve Waugh. His batting flourished after he stopped bowling due to injury.

I'm still not convinced about White. His batting is patchy and he has not bowled enough this season. On sight he looks classy but his figures haven't matched the promise yet.

 

[aussie]

aussie

Fair points thier on white and watson their mate

 

[Richard]

That's not right. I'm talking about the next best at the moment. Luck has nothing to do with it. None of them have done enough to force one of the encumbents out.

You said "top guys not to have played a Test".
So Inness is not a top bowler, just because of a single bad season?

 

[Richard]

Clarke is a superb talent and in all likelihood will be succesful.

To say that he has been exposed too early is to ignore his results to date - century on debut, devastating 100 vs Kiwis, great fielder

Wow, two centuries against such challenging bowling.
43.13 is his current average, which is below the standard set by most of Australia's flat-track bullies in the last 4 years.

 

[Richard]

Should Watson stay healthy, I predict that he'll have a longer than average test career.

140 k plus bowler

Which doesn't really matter very much, it's other things he'll need to do to succeed.

 

[Richard]

my goodness another crazy comment on two of the biggest young talents in australia. Maybe they both aren't anything superb at the moment but the have loads of potnential, Watson is australia next great all-rounder for sure

No, not for sure at all.

While white is one of the better young spinners in australia, maybe his bowling has fallen away sicne he has become victorian captain has been underbowling himself throughout
this season but before that in past seasons and at junior level he has shown great potential, He surely for me along will lead the next generation of aussie spinners along with Cullen, Casson and the others. Great things weren't even expected out of warne when he first came into the australian team but he had the potential to do well at this level so does Cameron White.

Really?
I think not somehow.

 

[age_master]

Wow, two centuries against such challenging bowling.
43.13 is his current average, which is below the standard set by most of Australia's flat-track bullies in the last 4 years.

lol so sour towards Australians still

 

[aussie]

aussie

No, not for sure at all.

Really?
I think not somehow.

yes for sure at this stage richard, tell me any other young australian player who can be said to be the next great aussie all-rounder, everyone is saying it mate.

Well if u dont agree with those comments on white, tell me what u think then

 

[Top_Cat]

Wow, two centuries against such challenging bowling.
43.13 is his current average, which is below the standard set by most of Australia's flat-track bullies in the last 4 years.

Once again, your numbers ignore several vital factors:

1) The 151 in his debut Test was actually against a decent attack of Pathan, Khan, Harbi (who was bowling well enough in that match to take 11 wickets as it was a turning deck, not the flat track you infer) and Kumble.

2) He came to the wicket in the second ton with the Aussies in trouble at 4/128 and in a session, he and Gilchrist turned tha game on its head. It was one of those 50/50 situations where had NZ taken their chances, they could well have won that Test. As it was, Gillie and Clarke batted VERY well against bowling which was up (Martin took 5-fer, in fact) for a while but then the pressure of their scoring rate got to NZ.

If you remember, I was one of the anti-Clarke brigade before he got picked and I stand by what I said (I still say it was too early as he seems to have quite a glaring problem with straights balls angled in outside off-stump) but geez, don't denigrate what he has done so far. That average is fantastic for someone only around the 23-24 year old age mark who's played so few Tests.

I agree he has been over-hyped by so many but there's no disputing he's done well.

 

[aussie]

aussie

Once again, your numbers ignore several vital factors:

1) The 151 in his debut Test was actually against a decent attack of Pathan, Khan, Harbi (who was bowling well enough in that match to take 11 wickets as it was a turning deck, not the flat track you infer) and Kumble.

2) He came to the wicket in the second ton with the Aussies in trouble at 4/128 and in a session, he and Gilchrist turned tha game on its head. It was one of those 50/50 situations where had NZ taken their chances, they could well have won that Test. As it was, Gillie and Clarke batted VERY well against bowling which was up (Martin took 5-fer, in fact) for a while but then the pressure of their scoring rate got to NZ.

If you remember, I was one of the anti-Clarke brigade before he got picked and I stand by what I said (I still say it was too early as he seems to have quite a glaring problem with straights balls angled in outside off-stump) but geez, don't denigrate what he has done so far. That average is fantastic for someone only around the 23-24 year old age mark who's played so few Tests.

I agree he has been over-hyped by so many but there's no disputing he's done well.

looking good top cat, another post with very good points

 

[Mister Wright]

You said "top guys not to have played a Test".
So Inness is not a top bowler, just because of a single bad season?

Inness hasn't been a regular in the Victorian side now for 2 seasons.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Wow, two centuries against such challenging bowling.
43.13 is his current average, which is below the standard set by most of Australia's flat-track bullies in the last 4 years.

Do we have flat tracks specially prepared for us or would you then have to say that the rest of the World's batsmen are flat track bullies too?

 

[The Argonaut]

You said "top guys not to have played a Test".
So Inness is not a top bowler, just because of a single bad season?

As mentioned in another post Inness has not played well for Victoria for at least 2 seasons. He would probably be the top bowler for Victoria A at the moment. Who knows he may come back but on current form cannot be rated amongst Australia's top 10 fast bowlers when compared to McGrath, Gillespie, Lee, Kasprowicz, Tait, Wright, Lewis, Bichel, Bracken, Harwood and Griffith. Even Dawes, Nicholson and Clark would be rated higher than Inness.

 

[Richard]

lol so sour towards Australians still

No, just towards overrated young players.

 

[Richard]

yes for sure at this stage richard, tell me any other young australian player who can be said to be the next great aussie all-rounder, everyone is saying it mate.

Yes, and because some people (I hardly see it's everyone) are saying it doesn't neccesarily mean it'll happen.
I think Watson could be good, yes, but I don't think he's a great in the Davidson, let alone Miller, mould.

Well if u dont agree with those comments on white, tell me what u think then

I think he's exceedingly poor and if he wasn't captain would be having his place in Victoria's side questioned.

 

[Richard]

Once again, your numbers ignore several vital factors:

1) The 151 in his debut Test was actually against a decent attack of Pathan, Khan, Harbi (who was bowling well enough in that match to take 11 wickets as it was a turning deck, not the flat track you infer) and Kumble.

2) He came to the wicket in the second ton with the Aussies in trouble at 4/128 and in a session, he and Gilchrist turned tha game on its head. It was one of those 50/50 situations where had NZ taken their chances, they could well have won that Test. As it was, Gillie and Clarke batted VERY well against bowling which was up (Martin took 5-fer, in fact) for a while but then the pressure of their scoring rate got to NZ.

Pathan and Khan do NOT make a contribution towards a good attack, they're both abysmally poor. Seriously, Corey, I usually trust your interpretation of pitches and I've heard so many conflicting, blurry-edged reports of that Bangalore wicket - what was it like?
And why, because Australia had managed (somehow) to get themselves in a spot of bother against a totally innocuous New Zealand attack (Martin took 5 for 152 IIRR - hardly an impressive performance), does that mean that Clarke's and Gilchrist's bashing of them was somehow better?

If you remember, I was one of the anti-Clarke brigade before he got picked and I stand by what I said (I still say it was too early as he seems to have quite a glaring problem with straights balls angled in outside off-stump) but geez, don't denigrate what he has done so far. That average is fantastic for someone only around the 23-24 year old age mark who's played so few Tests.

I agree he has been over-hyped by so many but there's no disputing he's done well.

How has he done well? He's averaged in the early 40s, which for Australia in the last 4 years is only just acceptible, certainly not fantastic, however old or young they are.

 

[Richard]

looking good top cat, another post with very good points

And another infuriatingly pointless one here.
If you agree, why the hell can't you just not post? Everyone takes silence for assent.