Future of Cricket, suggestion to the ICC

[morgieb]

Some of those matchups are absolute gems.

Australia vs Finland (they'd just get raped, straight up)
England vs Nepal (now there's someone England could beat in limited-overs cricket )
Pakistan vs Italy (imagine the Italians sledging Inzy)
Sri Lanka vs Cayman Islands (battle of the islands, I reckon no one would watch)
South Africa vs Cyprus (best one of them all, Cyprus plays cricket?)

1. True, I bet the Aussies would bowl them out for 0.

2. Nepal beat South Africa a couple of years back in the U19's World Cup, so they could beat England

3. Inzy no longer plays International Cricket

4. True, so very true.

5. I doubt it!

 

[Prince EWS]

3. Inzy no longer plays International Cricket

He hasn't retired from test cricket, and he technically hasn't retired from Twenty20 cricket either...

 

[chris.hinton]

LA Ice e has a decent idea but its also flawed a better proposal would be this

24 (Non -test plying nations) in First Ropund

Sample draw

Kenya vs Argentina
Scotland vs Jersey
Afgainstian vs Holland
Ireland vs Tanzania
Canada vs Zambia
Bermuda vs Italy
Kuwait vs UAE
Namibia vs Cayman islands
Qatar vs Denmark
Oman vs Nepal
Fiji vs USA
Papa New Guinea vs Uganda

Winners go though to Second Round which could be drawn ramdonly

Third Round would include all 10 (Including Zimbabwe) ODI nations with the six best teams from the previous two rounds.

This could provide good but average standard of cricket in the first two rounds. and a one off game could produce some shocks

If Successful this could expand

 

[morgieb]

He hasn't retired from test cricket, and he technically hasn't retired from Twenty20 cricket either...

True, but people don't retire from ODI and still play Twenty20's!

 

[Stefano]

I have read this topic for the first time. You mentioned Serbia in football. OK. they played badly in the last World Cup and they were trashed. But Serbia has a great soccer tradition and I think you simply ignore it. You don't even know how many good players were produced by the former yugoslavian country:

In 1991, Red Star Belgrade (Crvena Zvezda) won the European Champions League (at the time, the competition was called European Champion Clubs' Cup), which is the most important soccer tournamnet for clubs in Europe.

If Yugoslavia (which was composed by many Serbian players) could take part to the 1992 European Championship (they qualified but they were excluded for the War), they might have won the title. And I am not joking. These are some results of Yugoslavia in World Cups

1930: Third place
1954: Quarterfinal
1958: Quarterfinal
1962: Fourth place
1974: Last 8
1990: Quarterfinal (defeated by a lucky Argentinian team after the penalties)
1998: Last 16

and European Championship
1960: Finalist
1968: Finalist
1972: Last 8
1976: Fourth Place
1984: They won their qualification group and reached the main tournament (which was played by just 8 teams)
1992: They won their qualification group, but they could not take part to the tournament
2000: Quarterfinal

So, it is not a powerforce, but definetely not a team to be overlooked and a terrible World Cup cannot erase what Serbia (as part of Yugoslavia) has done in the past!

 

[Kriketer]

Make these small countries play Twenty20. Held minnow 2020 tournaments and stuff and include strong associates like Canada, Holland. I bet, that way the game will spread quickly.

 

[morgieb]

1. True, I bet the Aussies would bowl them out for 0.

2. Nepal beat South Africa a couple of years back in the U19's World Cup, so they could beat England

3. Inzy no longer plays ODI/Twenty20 Cricket

4. True, so very true.

5. I doubt it!

Cyprus do actually play cricket.

 

[McEvil!!]

Denmark and USA far too low in those rankings.

Hong Kong 8 and Nepal 9. C'mon. What have their senior teams done?

Seems like its based on a cumulation of info from a variety of tournaments and common sense left out.

Hong Kong have played International cricket, Nepal beat South Africa in an U/19 world cup a few years back.

 

[Matt79]

I oppose the inclusion of any further countries in cricket, based on their current performance and wish to have Zimbabwe and Bangers stripped of test status. I also oppose lowering the standard of competition in international cricket in some ridiculous effort to try and manufacture interest on the part of countries that have no interest in cricket and never will. So there's precious little in this for me.

I wouldn't mind the Champions Trophy ditched, and the 20/20 WC take its slot. I think a world championship of Test cricket is a stupid idea - the current ranking system works fine.

 

[Matt79]

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[Athlai]

Zimbabwe isn't a Test nation anymore.

T20 world cup can't replace the champions trophy because the T20 world cup happens so bloody often.

What this will be our 3rd T20 world cup? All AFTER the last ODI world cup. Jeeeeez

 

[Matt79]

I thought they were still a Test nation, only one that had been temporarily suspended - which is a joke.

By saying the T20 WC replaces the CT, I mean that it takes place once every four years (is that how often the CT happens - I've somehow failed to care enough to keep track). WC 2011, T20 2013, WC 2015, T20 2017 etc.

If it happened once every four years, the individual tournaments would actually mean something, rather than being a blur that no-one can actually keep track of.

 

[Shri]

bot alert

 

[Patroclus]

T20

 

[jashan83]

Cricket is one of the best sports played in the world. It has various forms of the game but three of them are recognized by the ICC- Test cricket, One-day International cricket and last but not least Twenty20 International Cricket. Since the ICC don't want Twenty20 to take over ODI's but still be formal, the ICC should:
*Put a Twenty20 raking system into affect for it.
*The mandatory minimum requirements of at least 1 Twenty20 International,home and away, against every other Full Member over a period, while still would schedule rest periods for their players.
*It should have a limit of 10 Twenty20 Internationals (instead of the confusing 3 home Twenty20 matches/year), just like 15 Tests and 30 One Day Internationals per calendar year per country averaged out through the 6 FTP year plan.
*Associate teams right now works hard to get ODI status then eventually Test status, what if ICC created Twenty20 status. This form of the game can be played competitively between any sides, be it a full member vs a associate. ICC should give Twenty20 status out to a broader number of nations who could compete in the Twenty20 level then try to gain ODI status then eventually test status!
*The second Twenty20 World Championship should be a knockout tournament(the form being fast pacing so should it's tournament) consisting 32 teams making cricket really a global sport; ten full members and the top 22 associates from the ranking systems. Even though this tournament would have more teams, it would not have more value than the World Cup, first of all because the World Cup is the most pure tournament with the best teams(currently 16) playing the more pure form of the sport ever to be played in a tournament for more than 30 years. Secondly, while the world cup is played every four years, which is like sacred, the Twenty20 World Championship would be played every 2 years making it the junior tournament. Twenty20 is a junior compared to it's older brothers ODI's and Tests so it's tournament would also be a junior to the world cup; sort of like a mini world cup for the mini form of ODI. But the ICC still needs to take advantage of what they can, which is more teams can participate competitively in it. So the knockout tournament with 32 teams would have 29 matches played in 15-18 days and have its own values that would make it different from the world cup.


Example:
Knockout Stages
1st Round 2nd Round Quarter-finals Semi-final Final
[Day 1-8] [Day 9-12] [Day 13-14] [Day 15-16] [Day 18]

1.Australia vs 32. Gibraltar
vs
16.UAE vs 17. Denmark

VS

8.England vs 25. Afghanistan
vs
9.Bangladesh vs 24. Cayman Islands

VS

5.India vs 28. Papua New Guinea
vs
12.Ireland vs 21. USA

VS

4.Pakistan vs 29. Tanzania
vs
13.Scotland vs 20. Hong Kong

VS

3.New Zealand vs 30. Nepal
vs
14.Bermuda vs 19. Canada

VS

6.Sri Lanka vs 27. Uganda
vs
11.Kenya vs 22. Italy

VS

7.West Indies vs 26. Jersey
vs
10.Zimbabwe vs 23. Norway

VS

2.South Africa vs 31. Germany
vs
15.Netherlands vs 18. Namibia




The ICC needs money for their Development Program to spread the sport. But the only events they get the financial help is from the ICC Cricket World cup and ICC Champions Trophy. Unfortunately, the Champions Trophy is not really helping cricket and does not have any value because it's very similar and only four months away from the biggest thing in cricket- the world Cup. But the ICC needs the money, luckily they have another tournament to replace it- ICC Twenty20 World Championship. From 2012 the ICC Twenty20 Championship should be played every 2 years. The winner of the tournament would be referred as the World Twenty20 Champions and world Champions would be the winners of the world cup as it is now. The ICC cricket world cup should be going forward as it is now because there really isn't any flaws with it. The tournament is expending as more teams have the quality play in it but there should be a limit at one point where it wont expand anymore; the current tournament is being played by 16 teams in 51 matches which takes 47 days, if it expands too much with too many teams it would take too long.

These should be only two ICC Events played at the highest international men level:
2007 -World Cup & Twenty20 Championship
2008 -
2009 -Twenty20 Championship
2010 -
2011 -World Cup
2012 -Twenty20 Championship
2013 -
2014 -Twenty20 Championship
2015 -World Cup
2016 -Twenty20 Championship
2017 -
2018 -Twenty20 Championship
2019 -World Cup
2020 -Twenty20 Championship
2021 -
2022 -Twenty20 Championship
2023 -World Cup
2024 -Twenty20 Championship
2025 -
2026 -Twenty20 Championship
2027 -World Cup
2028 -Twenty20 Championship
2029 -
2030 -Twenty20 Championship
2031 -World Cup
2032 -Twenty20 Championship
2033 -
2034 -Twenty20 Championship
2035 -World Cup
2036 -Twenty20 Championship
2037 -
2038 -Twenty20 Championship
2039 -World Cup
2040 -Twenty20 Championship


Though Test cricket is too long for a tournament, the ICC has done a good job with LG ICC Test Championship. But don't you think crowning best test cricket team deserves same amount of value as handing over the world cup. Well here's another idea why not hold the crowning the of best test team every four years from 2013 then again in 2017 and so on (the blank years above). The team that was the number 1 team the most, meaning for the longest time combined in the last four years would win the Trophy for the LG ICC Test Championship. Crowning the best team in the world would be held at the ICC Awards every four years with the best team crowned and refereed as the Champions Champion.

The more you have something the less value it gets so please, for the sake of all forms of the sport don't overplay it and reduce it's value. Even playing all three forms half of their limit would be enough to please the crowd. Nothing would really affect cricket in a negative way in these changes- Champions trophy, which is in decaying position would be replaced with the exciting Twenty20 championship, more nations would play cricket, more value to the best test team and the world cup would still be the most valued tournament in cricket. Cricket truly is one of the best and global sports of the world. In most of the world the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd's are awarded, well it would be the same in cricket- 1st. LG ICC Test Championship winners, the champions champion; 2nd. ICC World Cup winners, the world champions; 3rd. ICC Twenty20 World Championship winners, the World Twenty20 Champions! The ICC Cricket World Cup will always be the top event played and Twenty20 will help it spread the game!

I must say great efforts put in by you. I totally agree with you on all your points. I totally appreciate your point that 20-20 is the vehicle to drive cricket into other countries. Most of the people here seem to be happy with present structure and greatly resist bringing other teams into mainfold. In that way the no of countries where cricket remains popular may just keep on decreasing. Today Zimbabwe went out tome it may be some other. Cricket may end up like American Football with IPL being the only meaningful tournament

 

[jashan83]

Of course my thread wasn't as funny as the nonsense in this thread, but at least it was attempting to raise money for charity.

Great.....atleast have an open mind on ideas. Anyways in the present structure we have been only able to manage just 10 Test Nations after playing test cricket for over 130 years. About 100 years were lost coz ICC was Imperial CC and not International. Even Rugby Union has more teams and the reason is a bigger WC (Last time they had 20 teams in WC even though qualifying teams were around 90, in cricket with over 110 teams we have only 14 slots). Football also similarly allows much higher no of teams and there are visible differences (Rem the 7-0 loss of N Korea this time, 8-0 loss of Saudi's in 2000 WC i guess).

 

[quytst0rm]

I must say great efforts put in by you. I totally agree with you on all your points. I totally appreciate your point that 20-20 is the vehicle to drive cricket into other countries. Most of the people here seem to be happy with present structure and greatly resist bringing other teams into mainfold. In that way the no of countries where cricket remains popular may just keep on decreasing. Today Zimbabwe went out tome it may be some other. Cricket may end up like American Football with IPL being the only meaningful tournament

NFL was created to keep the sport in the US, Americans could care less if the game spreads to other countries. Also NFL is extremely profitable their last known revenue (not income but profits) was $6 billion in 2006. Currently there are 19 NFL franchise worth at least $1 billion, so you can't compared IPL and NFL since these two have different history with NFL primarily an American sport and part of its culture.

 

[asham87]

Cricket is one of the best sports played in the world. It has various forms of the game but three of them are recognized by the ICC- Test cricket, One-day International cricket and last but not least Twenty20 International Cricket. Since the ICC don't want Twenty20 to take over ODI's but still be formal, the ICC should:
*Put a Twenty20 raking system into affect for it.
*The mandatory minimum requirements of at least 1 Twenty20 International,home and away, against every other Full Member over a period, while still would schedule rest periods for their players.
*It should have a limit of 10 Twenty20 Internationals (instead of the confusing 3 home Twenty20 matches/year), just like 15 Tests and 30 One Day Internationals per calendar year per country averaged out through the 6 FTP year plan.
*Associate teams right now works hard to get ODI status then eventually Test status, what if ICC created Twenty20 status. This form of the game can be played competitively between any sides, be it a full member vs a associate. ICC should give Twenty20 status out to a broader number of nations who could compete in the Twenty20 level then try to gain ODI status then eventually test status!
*The second Twenty20 World Championship should be a knockout tournament(the form being fast pacing so should it's tournament) consisting 32 teams making cricket really a global sport; ten full members and the top 22 associates from the ranking systems. Even though this tournament would have more teams, it would not have more value than the World Cup, first of all because the World Cup is the most pure tournament with the best teams(currently 16) playing the more pure form of the sport ever to be played in a tournament for more than 30 years. Secondly, while the world cup is played every four years, which is like sacred, the Twenty20 World Championship would be played every 2 years making it the junior tournament. Twenty20 is a junior compared to it's older brothers ODI's and Tests so it's tournament would also be a junior to the world cup; sort of like a mini world cup for the mini form of ODI. But the ICC still needs to take advantage of what they can, which is more teams can participate competitively in it. So the knockout tournament with 32 teams would have 29 matches played in 15-18 days and have its own values that would make it different from the world cup.


Example:
Knockout Stages
1st Round 2nd Round Quarter-finals Semi-final Final
[Day 1-8] [Day 9-12] [Day 13-14] [Day 15-16] [Day 18]

1.Australia vs 32. Gibraltar
vs
16.UAE vs 17. Denmark

VS

8.England vs 25. Afghanistan
vs
9.Bangladesh vs 24. Cayman Islands

VS

5.India vs 28. Papua New Guinea
vs
12.Ireland vs 21. USA

VS

4.Pakistan vs 29. Tanzania
vs
13.Scotland vs 20. Hong Kong

VS

3.New Zealand vs 30. Nepal
vs
14.Bermuda vs 19. Canada

VS

6.Sri Lanka vs 27. Uganda
vs
11.Kenya vs 22. Italy

VS

7.West Indies vs 26. Jersey
vs
10.Zimbabwe vs 23. Norway

VS

2.South Africa vs 31. Germany
vs
15.Netherlands vs 18. Namibia




The ICC needs money for their Development Program to spread the sport. But the only events they get the financial help is from the ICC Cricket World cup and ICC Champions Trophy. Unfortunately, the Champions Trophy is not really helping cricket and does not have any value because it's very similar and only four months away from the biggest thing in cricket- the world Cup. But the ICC needs the money, luckily they have another tournament to replace it- ICC Twenty20 World Championship. From 2012 the ICC Twenty20 Championship should be played every 2 years. The winner of the tournament would be referred as the World Twenty20 Champions and world Champions would be the winners of the world cup as it is now. The ICC cricket world cup should be going forward as it is now because there really isn't any flaws with it. The tournament is expending as more teams have the quality play in it but there should be a limit at one point where it wont expand anymore; the current tournament is being played by 16 teams in 51 matches which takes 47 days, if it expands too much with too many teams it would take too long.

These should be only two ICC Events played at the highest international men level:
2007 -World Cup & Twenty20 Championship
2008 -
2009 -Twenty20 Championship
2010 -
2011 -World Cup
2012 -Twenty20 Championship
2013 -
2014 -Twenty20 Championship
2015 -World Cup
2016 -Twenty20 Championship
2017 -
2018 -Twenty20 Championship
2019 -World Cup
2020 -Twenty20 Championship
2021 -
2022 -Twenty20 Championship
2023 -World Cup
2024 -Twenty20 Championship
2025 -
2026 -Twenty20 Championship
2027 -World Cup
2028 -Twenty20 Championship
2029 -
2030 -Twenty20 Championship
2031 -World Cup
2032 -Twenty20 Championship
2033 -
2034 -Twenty20 Championship
2035 -World Cup
2036 -Twenty20 Championship
2037 -
2038 -Twenty20 Championship
2039 -World Cup
2040 -Twenty20 Championship


Though Test cricket is too long for a tournament, the ICC has done a good job with LG ICC Test Championship. But don't you think crowning best test cricket team deserves same amount of value as handing over the world cup. Well here's another idea why not hold the crowning the of best test team every four years from 2013 then again in 2017 and so on (the blank years above). The team that was the number 1 team the most, meaning for the longest time combined in the last four years would win the Trophy for the LG ICC Test Championship. Crowning the best team in the world would be held at the ICC Awards every four years with the best team crowned and refereed as the Champions Champion.

The more you have something the less value it gets so please, for the sake of all forms of the sport don't overplay it and reduce it's value. Even playing all three forms half of their limit would be enough to please the crowd. Nothing would really affect cricket in a negative way in these changes- Champions trophy, which is in decaying position would be replaced with the exciting Twenty20 championship, more nations would play cricket, more value to the best test team and the world cup would still be the most valued tournament in cricket. Cricket truly is one of the best and global sports of the world. In most of the world the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd's are awarded, well it would be the same in cricket- 1st. LG ICC Test Championship winners, the champions champion; 2nd. ICC World Cup winners, the world champions; 3rd. ICC Twenty20 World Championship winners, the World Twenty20 Champions! The ICC Cricket World Cup will always be the top event played and Twenty20 will help it spread the game!

Excellent article mate. bravo. Great hardwork put in it. I have actually lived in 3 countries

 

[asham87]

Some of those matchups are absolute gems.

Australia vs Finland (they'd just get raped, straight up)
England vs Nepal (now there's someone England could beat in limited-overs cricket )
Pakistan vs Italy (imagine the Italians sledging Inzy)
Sri Lanka vs Cayman Islands (battle of the islands, I reckon no one would watch)
South Africa vs Cyprus (best one of them all, Cyprus plays cricket?)

Just one tournament in 4 years. The test teams should take out atleast a week in 4 years for such tournament. After the first round they get to play good sides only. Have a positive outlook

 

[asham87]

I started a thread yesterday about Dave Mohammad and pledged a fiver to Children In Need for every reply before the thread was locked. I knew the lack of humour on here meant it wouldn't cost me much, but we've had such a laugh at those fixtures that we've passed the hat around and raised another £70.

Pathetic sense of Humour