Frequent ball change made by England Team

[GIMH]

I don't recall there being as much trouble doing this as there has been in England over the past couple of years.

I am shocked to read this

 

[PlayerComparisons]

The ball changes started right when Stokes and Mccullum took over

 

[GIMH]

The ball changes started right when Stokes and Mccullum took over

This is simply not true. Go and dig out a million match threads from like the last 15 years and you’ll find people moaning about the bowlers trying to get the ball changed.

 

[reyrey]

Ball changes have been happening for ever. Anderson and Broad being the experienced pros they were got good at nagging for a ball change and knew better than anyone how to take advantage of a good ball. That's obviously been passed on.

As I mentioned in another thread the Duke balls in England have been sh!te since covid supply issues. I think the issue first was the glue used and then the leather. Those balls have zero chance of lasting as long as they are expected to. It's a miracle if they even make it to more than 50% of their expected life as a "good ball" so nagging for ball changes is almost guaranteed now.

Loads of crying and whinging about an issue that's on the umpires and those managing the game up top. Not an England player issue, although the sooner they move away from these sh!te Duke balls the better. Kookaburra is probably the way to go.

 

[Boy_Blunder]

Yeah this is definitely not new to Stokes' captaincy

 

[GIMH]

Has anyone playing club cricket found the balls shite this season? I’ve had to replace a few going out of shape. Seems like a wider issue but could be a coincidence.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Isn’t a ball that is out of shape more likely to misbehave? Am I missing something here?

one of the rare instances where symmetry is not your best friend

@ashley bach

 

[reyrey]

Has anyone playing club cricket found the balls ****e this season? I’ve had to replace a few going out of shape. Seems like a wider issue but could be a coincidence.

The Dukes had an okay time 2022 and 23. Still weren't up to their old standards though, but this year they seem worse than ever.

 

[reyrey]

Isn’t a ball that is out of shape more likely to misbehave? Am I missing something here?

The issue is they get big and soft which makes it useless to bowl with.

Umps will change an out of shape ball regardless of what bowlers say, so they wouldn't get a chance to benefit from it.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

The issue is it get big and soft which makes it useless to bowl with

Dumba$$es need to be more inventive like a certain Waqar and Wasim.

 

[GIMH]

I’m less talking about a ball going out of shape, because that’s not getting checked in the Cheshire 2nd XI 2nd division and more the seam bursting apart tbf

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I’m less talking about a ball going out of shape, because that’s not getting checked in the Cheshire 2nd XI 2nd division and more the seam bursting apart tbf

Ball buster!

 

[TheJediBrah]

Cricketer whinges about thing everyone does

More at 11

Nah, it's England

 

[Son Of Coco]

This is simply not true. Go and dig out a million match threads from like the last 15 years and you’ll find people moaning about the bowlers trying to get the ball changed.

It's not the ball changes in general. It's balls being replaced with something that is nothing like the ball that was being used.

 

[GIMH]

It's not the ball changes in general. It's balls being replaced with something that is nothing like the ball that was being used.

Which I acknowledged. But the idea it’s some English conspiracy is for low IQ buffoons.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Hence, that’s why we need a standardized set of aged balls.

It ain’t hard.

 

[the big bambino]

Why wouldn't you whinge about the ball unless its to get a better one? It is an obvious tactic and Matthews is right saying all your hard work has been punked. Since they've been handing out balls that seem to have re set the wear and tear, maybe they should offer complaining sides either the ball they have or one in the shed that's 20 overs older. I'd even give the ICC a few mangled up old compo cricket balls I kept for 30 years.

 

[reyrey]

Which I acknowledged. But the idea it’s some English conspiracy is for low IQ buffoons.

The West Indies got a very favourable ball change in one of the Tests which helped keep them in the game a bit longer. The conspiracy theorists will conveniently ignore that.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Which I acknowledged. But the idea it’s some English conspiracy is for low IQ buffoons.

I believe it is just a coincidence that England have benefitted each time this has happened (note: only tests I am aware of are valid samples).

As everyone who has ever won an argument on the internet says:

#justsayin'

 

[Line and Length]

A team doesn't change a ball. They point out to the umpire that a ball is out of shape/damaged and it's up to the umpires to approve a change and select a suitable ball. More often than not, they say the ball is OK and no change is necessary.
I recall a time when both batting and bowling sides were shown the replacement alongside the used ball and they could approve or challenge the suitability of the replacement. Perhaps if this was re-introduced there would be no grounds for complaint.