For all you Ganguly haters...

[Raj123]

Its easy to explain the double standards, first you only drew the series then you say they dominated the series.

16:9 wickets lost ratio in the deciding test...
dominated may not be completely accurate but they were certainly the better side.

 

[bhajji]

*******.....

India's best captain has to be one out of Pataudi, Wadekar, Kapil and Gavaskar.

Of the present lot, Laxman and Dravid are the best, tactically. Ganguly's instinctive methods only owrk for teams overflowing with talent, not full of ordinary players like this side.

well if u feel this team does not have talent u sure know nuthin bout cricket do u;this indian team is THE most talented in the world today even the aussies know that idiot hahhaa.....

 

[bhajji]

u talk **** mate.....

The Indians have played far better under Dravid, Kumble, Azhar, Tendulkar and Wadekar, and also Gavaskar, than under Ganguly. At least they won more tournaments. Ones that mattered.

Dean Jones or Hadlee should have been appointed coach of this team.

well ******* under tendulkar we got smashed 3-0 playing australia in australia whereas we almost humiliated them under ganguly to get a test series victory at sydney recently;it's tendulkar lickers like u cos of which india was the laughing stock of world cricket until recently;now india is respected for being a fighting ,tough unit & all the credit for that goes to ganguly & wright nobody else ******* hahaha.....

 

[Raj123]

.... cant even win a series (against a sub-par side) in their own backyard....."

do you mean about 5 hours away from their own backyard

 

[Raj123]

This has been said so many times, but what people keep failing to recognise is that the Indian pace attack are much of a muchness and all at a similar level, so missing one you get one almost as good (or bad depending on which way you look at it) coming in.

Losing McGrath and co, the replalcements are NOWHERE near as good bowlers.

you have great bowlers in the team so you can win plenty of matches, not use that as an excuse when they are unavailable.

 

[Raj123]

England, it's a tricky one, but I think 9 wins in the last 10 matches, and only 3 defeats in over 20 is a pretty successful period.

ya but still there are pretty good chances that england would be behind india in the not too distant future, what does that mean. maybe it proves what some beleive, that england's recent success isnt as great as some might advocate.

 

[bhajji]

well....

well & did u also enjoy being humiliated at adelaide,calcutta et too hahaha.....

well & did u also enjoy being humiliated at adelaide,calcutta etc too hahaha.....

 

[bhajji]

well....

mmmm....thats right...I was so jealous of India losing big twice in the world cup to us

well & did u also enjoy being humiliated at adelaide,calcutta etc too hahaha.....

 

[bhajji]

yea

yea yea

 

[Raj123]

what are you on about

 

[marc71178]

this indian team is THE most talented in the world today even the aussies know that idiot hahhaa.....

I don't think it is.

One of the best batting line-ups (although the opening position is far from sorted)

But a team needs bowling as well.

 

[marc71178]

you have great bowlers in the team so you can win plenty of matches, not use that as an excuse when they are unavailable.

Right, so the Aussies can't point out that they were hideously understrength owing to just about a whole bowling attack being out?

 

[ReallyCrazy]

marc71### you are full of drivel! You are saying all the indian bowlers are of same skill, huh? Yeah right, when Irfan Pathan, aged 19, made his debut...everyone knew he'd be as good as Zaheer (who got a 5fer in the previous match). When India lost Harbhajan, he was by far the best Indian spinner. If the Indian back up bowlers performed well.....its just kudos to them. Nobody knew ahead of time that they would. It was as serious a blow as losing McGrath or Warne. BTW India were also missing Srinath who retired just before the series. If you can use the excuse of missing warne due to substance abuse, I can use missing Srinath,

 

[maxpower]

its easy to hate ganguly, but captaining India or even pakistan is a lot harder than most ppl think, its not like captaining Aus or Eng where one does not have to go through all the beauraucratic carp that IND or PAK captains go through. Last time Pak truley played like team was when Imran was captain, and He wasn't like muched either. Under Ganguly IND is finally playing like team, sure maybe Rahul, Kumble or Sachin would be little bit better tactically, but they would'nt be able to handle all the other carp that goes with being an Ind captain.

 

[Sanz]

The Indians have played far better under Dravid, Kumble, Azhar, Tendulkar and Wadekar, and also Gavaskar, than under Ganguly. At least they won more tournaments. Ones that mattered.

Dean Jones or Hadlee should have been appointed coach of this team.

Yeah Like Last time Sachin toured Australia as a captain, India lost the series and falied to win a single game against Australia in VB series. Under Sachin Tendulkar we lost the home series to SA 2-0. Under Azhar we lost the home series to Pakistan 2-1. Dravid hasn't captained India enough to compared to Ganguly. It's worth noticable that the only test he captained in Pakistan, India lost.Forget winning, When was the last time Sunil Gavaskar drew a series in Australia ??

Dan Jones as a COACH, yeah right And was Hadlee available ??

Azhar, Let's not even go there. 'We didn't bowl well, bat well, field well' Standard reply after each loss. He won more tournaments and the ones those mattered ?? Uh the one that mattered was the World Cup. Azhar could take us into the finals in 3 attempts. Ganguly Led India to the Finals and lost to a FAR superior Team Probably the 2nd best(if not the best) ever ODI side. India is still the reigning ICC knockout trophy champion (Joint with SL) and that came under Gangs.

Stop spreading lies about Ganguly. Post facts, If you can.

 

[Sanz]

The Indians have crashing downward rapidly since Ganguly took over, and the sooner he's out, the better. The fielding will improve a lot.

 

[Sanz]

Right, so the Aussies can't point out that they were hideously understrength owing to just about a whole bowling attack being out?

Well So was the Indian Attack. Warnie has never been effective against India and I think Stuart macill did a better job. Gillespie was there, Lee was there. So only people who really missed out and could have made the difference were Glen Mcgrath and some Australian Umpires(Although Bucknor didn't let us miss aussie umpires).

 

[aussie_beater]

Its a good point...no doubt that this Indian team is the most talent, probably ever...and yet India used to win more...suggests to me that previous captains actually got more out of the talent available to them

When was it that India used to win more then now ?

 

[viktor]

When was it that India used to win more then now ?

the eighties, remember, the last time we win a test series outside the subcon., the last time we won the WC also won what might be the equivalent of the ICC trophy..

 

[aussie_beater]

the eighties, remember, the last time we win a test series outside the subcon., the last time we won the WC also won what might be the equivalent of the ICC trophy..

We won some ODIs during the timeframe between 1982-86. Yes, we used to lose less test matches during the 80s because there were very solid batsman like Gavaskar, Amarnath and the types who could grind out a draw in most cases, but we didn't win much compared to the current team, given the fact that this team under Ganguly has won more matches abroad then any other team in Indian cricket history.....I know it doesn't say a lot because we still haven't won a series outside the subcontinent since 1986, but going by the number of test matches won(not drawn), I think this team has done better then the team of the 80s.