First West Indies, then Australia....who next?

[Gajanayake]

Silentstriker wuts wrong with u........why are u so against India for.......i mean everyone here thinks India has talent except u...........face it they do haf talent............and yes i agree our pace attack isnt that great but its far better than NZland or west indies and also better than england i believe so...................gaygenjajflkjjfd;ajldalkghfd;ljk or wutever ur name is ( mind me i forgot to look at ur name bef4 starting this post and i am now to lazy to ) i agree with u my man!!!

And silentstriker India does haf talent in bowling its jus we're goign thru a team rebuilding proccess and they are raw bowlers.

And why do we even compare oruselves to teams liek NZLAND plz for God sake lets not compare ourselves to mediocre teams liek ENgland, West indies, and NZland ....i know many of u will start to differ on this point but w/e.

England have a far better pace attack than INdia dude. And atm, India are no more than a mediocre test side themselves.

 

[Turbinator]

England have a far better pace attack than INdia dude. And atm, India are no more than a mediocre test side themselves.

lol wutsup with u indian people on CW...........india a mediocre test side?????????? sheesh i give up!!!!

 

[silentstriker]

lol wutsup with u indian people on CW...........india a mediocre test side?????????? sheesh i give up!!!!

How many non-subcontinental series have we won in the last fifteen years?

Case closed. Mediocre is a compliment.

 

[Turbinator]

How many non-subcontinental series have we won in the last fifteen years?

Case closed. Mediocre is a compliment.

Let me guess ur next compliment................they can give a challenge to Zimbabwe and Bermuda

 

[Turbinator]

Let me guess ur next compliment................they can give a challenge to Zimbabwe and Bermuda

o wait that wasnt a compliment u were jus giving me high hopes there

 

[Tim]

Yes there was a statistic shown a year or 2 ago that said NZ had one of the highest first inning averages out of any Country, it was just that their 2nd innings average was decidedly horrific. NZ is a more talented side than they are given credit for, BUT they don't really help themselves with some of their rather below par performances at times.

 

[Laurrz]

Windies success = Flamboyant, attacking, batting with ferocious fast bowlers
Aussie success = tough mentality in your face cricket, Warne, McGrath, Excellent wicket-keepers (Healy, Gilchrist)

one similarity is that both these sides had superb openers as well...

at the moment i can't see any team dominate a whole decade like these two countries... no team like England, India, Pakistan etc. i don't think have the talent to produce such incredible cricketers (frm what i've seen) ... neither of these teams really have great openers as well... England being the closest by a mile tho... i hope its not them .... but i think injuries ahve killed them..... if they had that Ashes team still going they could be a great team for sure... and keep taht decade dominance happening

 

[aussie]

I dunno i really think England have the resources once they have players fit (which i think they will in the future, since in past other than the last year or so, England don't usually have all these injury problems) to dominate test cricket whenever Australia lose the mantle of world's best side:

In the batting they have solid options, from openers Trescothick, Strauss & probably Cook all have what i takes to be a great opening pair. In the middle-order there is Pietersen who has what i takes to become the one of if not the best batsman of the next decade, Vaughan (even though we may never see the Vaughan of 2002 again, i reckon if he returns he can still contribute), Bell improving all the time in to a solid player in the Thorpe style, Collingwood, Flintoff & decent back-up from the likes of Joyce, Shah & possibly Bopora. Plus there is bound to be some good batting-talent to come of age in the future.

Keeping at the moment is a slight problem, but if Chris Read can step up his game in the coming years with the bat it would be great for England since his ability with the gloves is well known. Then there is young Steve Davies who is showing great potential & possibly could be England's true successor to Stewart.

The bowling is where England have the greatest potential without doubt with fast bowling options coming from Harmison/Hoggard/Jones/Anderson/Tremlett/Broad/Mahmood/Plunkett along with Flintoff, England have probably the best crop of good fast bowlers coming through the ranks in world cricket ATM. Then there is Panesar who is potentially a match-winning spinner in the making.

So the nucleus is there for England to dominate test cricket IMO, if they will/or if the do will be as long as the great Windies & Australian sides is to be seen.

 

[adharcric]

And BTW, if you are talking about a single game, I would have Vaas over any one of our pacers (he's older now, so obviously I wouldn't repalce them with him but for one game, he is vastly superior).

Personally, I would take both Sreesanth and Munaf over him at this point in time. Not any other Indian seamers though.

 

[adharcric]

yes i agree our pace attack isnt that great but its far better than NZland or west indies and also better than england i believe so

Stop it! That's the most ridiculous bull I've heard about the Indian pace attack. Look, I'm backing our pace options to improve vastly over the next five years. We have a lot of talented bowlers in the 20-25 age group and a few more tall guys with pace, bounce and accuracy in the under-19 age level. Right now, our pace attack ranks very low in terms of actual performance. Australia (mcgrath, lee, clark), Pakistan (akhtar, asif, gul), England (flintoff, harmison, hoggard, jones) and South Africa (ntini, nel, steyn .. pollock's over) are clearly better than us. The Kiwis join that group with a healthy Bond, otherwise they are alongside us and the West Indians (Edwards, Taylor are improving though) as the poorest pace attacks. Give it a year or two and we'll be getting closer to the middle of the pack in terms of pace attacks. In terms of overall bowling attacks, we're average because of our spin tandem.

 

[Turbinator]

Stop it! That's the most ridiculous bull I've heard about the Indian pace attack. Look, I'm backing our pace options to improve vastly over the next five years. We have a lot of talented bowlers in the 20-25 age group and a few more tall guys with pace, bounce and accuracy in the under-19 age level. Right now, our pace attack ranks very low in terms of actual performance. Australia (mcgrath, lee, clark), Pakistan (akhtar, asif, gul), England (flintoff, harmison, hoggard, jones) and South Africa (ntini, nel, steyn .. pollock's over) are clearly better than us. The Kiwis join that group with a healthy Bond, otherwise they are alongside us and the West Indians (Edwards, Taylor are improving though) as the poorest pace attacks. Give it a year or two and we'll be getting closer to the middle of the pack in terms of pace attacks. In terms of overall bowling attacks, we're average because of our spin tandem.

dude calm down theres nothing wrong with expressing ur own opinion. plus wen i said better than nzland i wasnt counting bond in it b/c he comes for wut one match in an year. secondly, u west indian's are improving but so is the indian pace attack. and so therefore I still believe our pace attack is better than the west indian attack.

 

[AussieDominance]

cant you just speak properly! adharcic's point was Valid though

 

[Lillian Thomson]

first came the dominance of the west indies, then australia.........rest haf so far only played second fiddle to these teams...............whos turn is it next?

IMO i truly believe it cud be India's turn under dravid and sehhwag.................or Pakistan under younis khan!!!!!!!!!

Is this question implying that the West Indies dominated Test Cricket from it's inception in 1877 to the early 1990's and then Australia took over?

 

[silentstriker]

Is this question implying that the West Indies dominated Test Cricket from it's inception in 1877 to the early 1990's and then Australia took over?

Yea apparently. When only England and Australia played cricket, west indies still dominated .

Right before they got banned, I've heard SA had an extremely dominant side (I am not sure on this, maybe one of our SA posters can tell us more), one which might have been dominant for a decade if they were allowed to play.

 

[Turbinator]

All right guys, to the delight of many, i bid CW farewell. I enjoyed my short stint here.
Cya!

 

[Turbinator]

Also............I came here on CW to add some excitement and spice but i guess most of you did not like this.............many of criticized me on being to biased towards the subcontinent............also i was criticized as being to annoying and immature ( i guess i am to young for CW )..........i thought of making a thread where i cud bid farewell to you all but then i remmembered it would be something off topic so w/e.

I am sorry some of you did not enjoy my presence here on CW!

Bye.

 

[Matteh]

Also............I came here on CW to add some excitement and spice but i guess most of you did not like this.............many of criticized me on being to biased towards the subcontinent............also i was criticized as being to annoying and immature ( i guess i am to young for CW )..........i thought of making a thread where i cud bid farewell to you all but then i remmembered it would be something off topic so w/e.

I am sorry some of you did not enjoy my presence here on CW!

Bye.

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[R_D]

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I think he's just looking for some attention again.

 

[grecian]

Goodbye, I felt our time was short and sweet, like all the best short-lived love-affairs, I really hope you think of me at those special times, Valentines, Christmas, Groundhog day, Equadoran Independence day.

I'm welling up I have to say

We'll always have la Paz.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Also............I came here on CW to add some excitement and spice but i guess most of you did not like this.............many of criticized me on being to biased towards the subcontinent............also i was criticized as being to annoying and immature ( i guess i am to young for CW )..........i thought of making a thread where i cud bid farewell to you all but then i remmembered it would be something off topic so w/e.

I am sorry some of you did not enjoy my presence here on CW!

Bye.

I see this message came 8 minutes after the first time the poster left, so just in case you're still around here's a small piece of advice. There are many ways to "add some excitement and spice" to an Internet Forum, unfortunately posting semi-literate crap isn't one of them. Good luck in your next life changing venture though.